the chicago tribune....get your washed face here !

[KiraHarden]

[quote="TsVanessa69"]

take some responsibilty and get your shit together!
Either your a man or a woman, pick one side of the fence and stay on it. Pull it together. That back and forth shit makes us all look bad.

Perfectly said!

[mimiplastique]

well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

Thank you!!!!!!! With all that education, dude can't even get a job?? come on, how smart is that? Splitting atoms? Nigga pay some bills, pay back that student loan you living off of, stop being a Momma's boy. Your mother even reads you in one of your you-tube video's. Dude man up, take some responsibilty and get your shit together!
Either your a man or a woman, pick one side of the fence and stay on it. Pull it together. That back and forth shit makes us all look bad.

my hypothesis lol: dude only has all of this attention because of me ... and now with these papers it guarantees that for two years him and i will have a connection to each other . it is sad because as much as he says that he wants to be left alone by me linking my name into his youtube videos was a move that proved other wise ... any one who knows me knows i will say something back . then the text message telling me to go and look at it all ... when will norbit leave me alone ????

[TsVanessa69]

well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

Thank you!!!!!!! With all that education, dude can't even get a job?? come on, how smart is that? Splitting atoms? Nigga pay some bills, pay back that student loan you living off of, stop being a Momma's boy. Your mother even reads you in one of your you-tube video's. Dude man up, take some responsibilty and get your shit together!
Either your a man or a woman, pick one side of the fence and stay on it. Pull it together. That back and forth shit makes us all look bad.

my hypothesis lol: dude only has all of this attention because of me ... and now with these papers it guarantees that for two years him and i will have a connection to each other . it is sad because as much as he says that he wants to be left alone by me linking my name into his youtube videos was a move that proved other wise ... any one who knows me knows i will say something back . then the text message telling me to go and look at it all ... when will norbit leave me alone ????

Funny Norbot looks better than Hontis, and notice, Norbits hairline is more womanly than Hontis. This pic is on point down to the gap in the teeth!!!

[NYTSJulie]

This conversation so far does not make either of us look smart at all


Julie let's talk for real for a minute.

You and I are both TS's. Members of the club always recognize eachother. That to other TS's and people with allot of experience looking at TS's I don't pass means almost nothing. People with such experience can always clock any and every TS who ever lived anywhere. That is a fact.

The reason I have trouble finding a regular old job is because all one needs to do to find out I was born a male is a minimal bakckground check. Even after all papers are in order, after all operations have been had, that will still be true. Then there are preconceived notions of what work a transsexual would be good at or could do. Just stop for a moment and look at how some people here are acting about my career path. Basically education does not reduce prejudice.

Accepting what you have just said about yourself I would be able to ask of you the same questions. With a 140 IQ why haven't you done more with your life. I just don't ask because I know the answer. IQ does not predict sucess. Education does not gurantee a job. I know that you just like anyone else are just doing what it takes to survive.

That there is real talk.

Why haven't I dont more with my life, are you kidding with that question. Hmmm lets see. I will try to give a quick wrap of my life story in a few sentences.

First off, yes I am an escort but go read my Eros ad I am not around during the afternoons because I have other obligations. I am not some bitch sitting up in a hotel room for weeks on end doing nothing. So if thats where your trying to go with this then your very misinformed, I escort on the side, and its a very small part of my life.

I started transition out of high school. I have traveled the world, transitioned successfully, owned 2 homes, had many new cars, boyfriends, been engaged 2 times then a 3rd to some trick that I was working but that doesn't count lol, been to school, had several jobs and have a job now, lived with my ex and raised his daughter for 4 years, owned my own business. I could go on and on.

So while your sitting there splitting atoms take one of them and shove it way up for ass and put the other in a pipe and smoke it cunt.

I never said you were stupid. You said I was stupid. I never belittled your life you and others have belitteld and questioned mine. I have never started a thread just to flame someone. Yet I get blamed for it happening as if the other party has no agency of their own. As if they cannot be responsible for their actions. What the hell?

My lifes story is what it is. I had to compromise livng as a woman for the sake of becoming a scientist and going to a top flight program which just happend to be in a school with discriminatory policies like NIU's. Science was just more importnat to me. ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT"S STUPID JUST DOES NOT KNOW THE PASSION IT TAKES TO DO WHAT I DO.

Let me read this another way. You transtioned "out of highscool and lived ever since as a woman. I transtiioned in highschool, went back to living as a man for four years then retranstioned. So basically as of age 27 you and I had lived about the same ammount of time as women. Therefore it your point was to make some hay out of having lived as a woman for longer you did not. We are in fact even in that department.

I started transition 13 years ago. I took hormones a few years before I wet fulltime. If you have been in transition for 13 years also you wouldnt look like Urkel.

[mimiplastique]

THANK GOD I DO NOT KNOW ANYONE NAMED BRENDA WINK WINK

[BrendaQG]

This conversation so far does not make either of us look smart at all


Julie let's talk for real for a minute.

You and I are both TS's. Members of the club always recognize eachother. That to other TS's and people with allot of experience looking at TS's I don't pass means almost nothing. People with such experience can always clock any and every TS who ever lived anywhere. That is a fact.

The reason I have trouble finding a regular old job is because all one needs to do to find out I was born a male is a minimal bakckground check. Even after all papers are in order, after all operations have been had, that will still be true. Then there are preconceived notions of what work a transsexual would be good at or could do. Just stop for a moment and look at how some people here are acting about my career path. Basically education does not reduce prejudice.

Accepting what you have just said about yourself I would be able to ask of you the same questions. With a 140 IQ why haven't you done more with your life. I just don't ask because I know the answer. IQ does not predict sucess. Education does not gurantee a job. I know that you just like anyone else are just doing what it takes to survive.

That there is real talk.

well your so good at going to court filing restraining orders...with mad money get a lawyer and file for discrimination..case closed

Money isn't the issue there are organizations like lambada legal who would represent in a discrimination case for free.

The problem as always is proving that there was in fact discrimination. So far the people I have dealt with have been real smart about this and not just said "we will not hire you (or changed our minds) because you are a tranny." It has to be that blatant before any law will kick in. Not to mention that if the organization is a federal contractor or the fed govt. they can discriminate based on "gender identity or expression". There is no law covering them.

It's partly my fault. People have a fixed idea in their head of how a research scientist is supposed to look and act. That image clashes with the image of a transsexual woman. At lest it does in the minds of the ignorant. (This is when I honestly think to myself "why didn't I just go to beauty school?")

I FELL U..I MEAN ITS ALWAYS LEGAL NAME CHANGE..I KNOW WHEN I GOT MINE CHANGED AND WENT TO DMV THEY CHANGE THE SEX..ALL MY PAPERS SAY FEMALE EVEN MY PASSPORT..SO U SHOULD TRY IT..I'VE WORKED A PLEANTY OF JOBS WITH OUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNOW MY T..BUT I KNOW WHEN I WAS TRANSITIONING ..I HAD A NICE JOB WORKING FOR UNIVERSITY OF MARLAND SCHOOL OF MEDICINE..THEY PULLED ONE OF THOSE LIL TRICKS ON ME..ONCE I WENT FULL TIME..SO AFTER THAT I DECIDED TO MAKE SURE NEXT TIME I GET A JOB I GO IN AS A WOMAN WITH PROPER LEGAL PAPER WORK SO I WONT GO THROUGH THAT BULLSHIT AGAIN.. FELL ME

LOL YALL GIRLS NEED TO CALL MTV AND GET A REALITY SHOW..RATINGS WOULD BE TO THE MOON..

I have had my name AND GENDER MARKER changed on all my ID and all my papers EXCEPT my B.C. here in IL you cannot get that changed without bottom surgery (unless the law has changed again or there is someone shady who will do it anyway). Even with that changed the RECORDS OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION WILL ALWYS SAY MALE FOR ANYONE BORN THAT WAY.

If it was as simple as "having my shit toegether and papers in order" :tsk: I wouldn't complain.

AS FOR MY NAME BEING A "MALE" NAME ONCE AND FOR ALL LOOK AT THESE..

Google: "Baby Names" Hontas*

The Urban Dictionary: Hontas

A womans vag. Also known as an axe wound, beaver, cooter, clam, box, muff, slit, snatch, or many other terms.

Did you see that sexy indian girl? God I wanna poke some hontas.


So Vanessa Kira and any others who would tell me to "pick one side of the fence"... I have picked one side of the fence. I PICKED IT WHEN I WAS 13 AND ONLY WENT BACK UNDER GREAT DURESS.

Fuck you very much.

* I edited this part here to change it from "female baby names" to just "baby names". The only reference that has my name list it as female or unisex which is what I have always said about it. Get my papers in order... bithces wanna talk about who's had this or that done first. How many MTF transsexuals were given a female name when they were born!

[echimandu]

Echi is a alcoholic Legend, his anger and abrasive attitude derive from that. I have just chosen to ignore him from now on. I hope he seeks AA and gets the help he needs. It's rough being an acoholic or druggie, I dated one for two years, he suffered from alcoholism and bulimia. He is still dealing with it. It's why we broke up, I could no longer be his support and sit and watch him die.

Bitch you know nothing about me you fucking man. Yeah, I called you a man. Now start crying again like you always do. You need therapy in a bad way. Must be tough thinking that you should be treated like some kind of princess when your nothing more than a deluded imbisile.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Echi is a alcoholic Legend, his anger and abrasive attitude derive from that. I have just chosen to ignore him from now on. I hope he seeks AA and gets the help he needs. It's rough being an acoholic or druggie, I dated one for two years, he suffered from alcoholism and bulimia. He is still dealing with it. It's why we broke up, I could no longer be his support and sit and watch him die.

Bitch you know nothing about me you fucking man. Yeah, I called you a man. Now start crying again like you always do. You need therapy in a bad way. Must be tough thinking that you should be treated like some kind of princess when your nothing more than a deluded imbisile.

rofl whatever you say dear. Please seek AA.

[BrendaQG]

@echimandu

Will you quit it with calling girls men. Goddamit when one of us does it it's allot like one black person calling another a nigger. It's just not the same when you do it.

So what if some bitches want to call other bithces men that's just part of the tranny drama "as the client turns". OK

Just stop.

[echimandu]

This thread really is an eye opener! I agree with Echimandu, a lot of the trannies in this thread are acting not only like men, but angry, agressive men. Why is this being settled on the internet when the people involved live in the same city?

Thanks Revolve. I know most of what I say about these so called girls is on point. But according to people like Kelly, I'm attacking someone. Hey Kelly, if you think I'm so much of an alcoholic, give me a call after I drink a half bottle of whiskey and I'll tell you how I really feel about you.