View Poll Results: Oral with or without condom..... ?
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06-07-2007 #41
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Originally Posted by 62des
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06-12-2007 #42
Once again, many people believe that oral sex is not a statistically significant risk factor for HIV. However, few health care professionals will claim that oral sex does not cause HIV.
I have a close friend who contracted HIV from a man he was dating back in the early 90's when it was believed that oral sex could not cause HIV. Thanks to meds he is still alive, though for how long none of us know. I see little reason why he would lie, and one friend who will die from unprotected oral is enough for me.
That said, bbj (bareback blow job) is an extremely contention issue in the sex industry. Whether you are talking about trans sex workers or non trans sex workers. A large percentage of escorts offer bbj, some to completion, some not, and those that do present the same "race to the bottom" that affects workers in any industry. Girls that don't have a difficult time competing, and thus have to A. live with a lower income, B. publicly demand safe sex from fellow sex workers (which at times can include some really nasty fights) or C. compromise their health and safety in order to compete. I imagine this is a prevalent issue in the porn industry as well, though there seem to be more of an emphasis on testing in the porn industry.
As for abstinence. Well...
I want to create a world where recreational sex is safer, and to me, from a harm reduction standpoint can include many positive steps.
First and foremost, challenging the cultural stigma attached to the use of condoms. Offering quality safe sex education that deals honestly with risks that adults can choose to take, and not teaching abstinence only, which is an incredibly harmful public policy. Most importantly for this discussion, the immediate legalization of sex work with an emphasis on testing and regulation. If prostitution was legal, sex workers could unionize and demand safer working conditions which don't pit providers against each other.
Of course the Bush administration is much more concerned with blaming people living with AIDS and pursuing its cruel and calculated plan to push its religious agenda in cohort with the major pharmaceutical corporations profits, over any semblance of public health.
For those guys who care about the health and safety of working girls, support working providers who have a safe sex policy, and make sure they survive and thrive.
xoxo
mandy
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08-06-2007 #43
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Info on this site suggests a chance of 1 in 20,000 of contracting HIV by fellating someone who is known to have the disease. Please note that I am not making any claims for myself, but am just putting this forward for discussion. Aside from the (possible?) AIDS risk, what other risks do people take when they do not us a condom for oral sex? Please level-headed replies only (wailing and gnashing of teeth tends to detract from any reasonable response) and please don't put forward word of mouth as gospel.
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08-07-2007 #44
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How did they come up with that figure, 1 in 20,000?
Up until last year, I used to give oral without a condom. However, that nagging feeling wouldn't leave me alone. I kept telling myself "yeah, it's a low risk, but there's still a risk."
I went to the county health department to take an HIV test. I was told that the risk for HIV is low, but I had a better chance of getting gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, chlamydia and genital warts. For $20, I can be tested for all five, plus get an HIV test.
I'm happy to say I came out negative on all six. From now on, I will only give covered BJs. It's not as much fun as giving uncovered, but at least I can feel safe doing so. The temptation to give uncovered will always be there, but taking an HIV test has been very stressful for me. I will keep telling myself it's not worth the risk.
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08-07-2007 #45
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Originally Posted by Jennifer_English
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08-08-2007 #46
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What kind of dopehead question is that? Oral is a form of sex. Fuck HIV/AIDS you can still get HERPES and the shit will be with you for LIFE not to mention all the other shit that I don't kow about at the moment. Damn! No wonder so many guys are getting all these diseases!
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08-09-2007 #47
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but herpes lesions can occur on other areas of skin than those covered by a condom. Are you advocating abstinance or do you just have no idea what you're talking about? Maybe some replies from people who can back up their statements with actual knowledge and who don't shriek "think of the children!" all the time, would be helpful?
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08-09-2007 #48
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i knew some girls down south who got syphilis from doin the bbj...sores in the mouth and a nasty skin rash..not cute at all...this shit is making a comeback....
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08-09-2007 #49
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With Syphilis is it not likely to be transmitted from a visible lesion also?
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08-09-2007 #50