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  1. #101
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    This been said millions of tymes But it is so true
    gay or str8
    black or white it doesn't matter all guys(4 the most part) think with their dick
    hell even I do this that's why men do alot of silly shit, I'm not makin no excuses or nothin I'm just sayin wat I think



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    I really didn't know whether to touch this thread with a 30 foot pole, hmmm....



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    i dnot no how mtost of yooz gyz can karry a conbersayshun... You fwits cant speell wotht a damm.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
    [What you are not understanding- or are uncapable of understanding because of your conditioning is that to ME- seeing a client or doing a movie scenes is WORK- just like it might be for someone going to the office or any other job. There is no emitonal attatchment, its simply a job. A very personal one, but nonetheless a JOB. Nothing more and nothin less. Like in any business you develop friendships and business relationships but what no one who is not in the industry seems to understand that when you finish a sex scene everyone says- thanks it was great working with you and they go back to their lives. Just like you do when you finish YOUR job.

    How does one remain monogamous? One remains monogamous by not seeing, dating, or sleeping with other people on a personal intimate level.

    LOOK- what you are doing is trying to impose YOUR standards on me and every sex worker. It's great to have standards- as long as you don't impose them on other people. You don;t have to date an escort or understand how anyone could. That;s grand- IT"S YOUR CHOICE.

    So if I can understand and respect YOU for what you choose- then YOU should be able to understand and respect people that have relationships that you might consider unsual.

    The bottom line darling is setting boundaries and talking about what is OK and what is NOT right away when you get involved. That's really it.
    I lay all my cards on the table when I am really interested in someone and then I let them decide wether they want to play them or not. And let me tell you- all of my relationships have ended because I caught the other person doing shady stuff, I was always upfront about what I do and did.

    As I have said many times- what I do and WHO I am are two very different people. You only know me as Allanah Starr.
    My personal life is not Allanah Starr.
    I hear what you're saying Allanah, and I understand it. What I am saying is that while you and other women who escort may be able to separate work from your personal life, it is difficult at a minimum, and impossible for most men from what I've gathered, to see that separation. So, while I understand what you are saying, I can't do the math and come up with the same conclusion. That's all I'm saying.

    I am not trying to impose my values on anyone, simply saying, along with several others, that we arrive at a different place than you ladies do with respect to this issue. What you do is, of course, your business... and I have said that I've been a client, so I surely wouldn't try to put down escorting. However, I wouldn't try to have a relationship with an escort beyond a business transaction, as it would be too much emotionally for me to deal with. But that's just me... And I meant no disrespect to anyone with what I've said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ347
    Quote Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
    [What you are not understanding- or are uncapable of understanding because of your conditioning is that to ME- seeing a client or doing a movie scenes is WORK- just like it might be for someone going to the office or any other job. There is no emitonal attatchment, its simply a job. A very personal one, but nonetheless a JOB. Nothing more and nothin less. Like in any business you develop friendships and business relationships but what no one who is not in the industry seems to understand that when you finish a sex scene everyone says- thanks it was great working with you and they go back to their lives. Just like you do when you finish YOUR job.

    How does one remain monogamous? One remains monogamous by not seeing, dating, or sleeping with other people on a personal intimate level.

    LOOK- what you are doing is trying to impose YOUR standards on me and every sex worker. It's great to have standards- as long as you don't impose them on other people. You don;t have to date an escort or understand how anyone could. That;s grand- IT"S YOUR CHOICE.

    So if I can understand and respect YOU for what you choose- then YOU should be able to understand and respect people that have relationships that you might consider unsual.

    The bottom line darling is setting boundaries and talking about what is OK and what is NOT right away when you get involved. That's really it.
    I lay all my cards on the table when I am really interested in someone and then I let them decide wether they want to play them or not. And let me tell you- all of my relationships have ended because I caught the other person doing shady stuff, I was always upfront about what I do and did.

    As I have said many times- what I do and WHO I am are two very different people. You only know me as Allanah Starr.
    My personal life is not Allanah Starr.
    I hear what you're saying Allanah, and I understand it. What I am saying is that while you and other women who escort may be able to separate work from your personal life, it is difficult at a minimum, and impossible for most men from what I've gathered, to see that separation. So, while I understand what you are saying, I can't do the math and come up with the same conclusion. That's all I'm saying.

    I am not trying to impose my values on anyone, simply saying, along with several others, that we arrive at a different place than you ladies do with respect to this issue. What you do is, of course, your business... and I have said that I've been a client, so I surely wouldn't try to put down escorting. However, I wouldn't try to have a relationship with an escort beyond a business transaction, as it would be too much emotionally for me to deal with. But that's just me... And I meant no disrespect to anyone with what I've said.
    WORD! and it hasnt got to do with "imposing ones standards on anyone" - its a depply human sentiment that you dont wanna see the person you love beeing intimate with a lot of other people. you can say a hundred times "its just a job" - but from my perspective as a guy, it ISNT THE SAME. ive been down that road, and its a dead end street.

    would i date an escort again? yes, but i would NOt try to get in her pants. sounds strange but thats the only way to avoid getting scarred emotionally.


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    I have only read like the first six pages so far, but Vanessa was correct in her original reason for the thread. The guy wanted sex but was offering nothing in exchange. He should have been willing to take her out, to let her have a good time or something. I think she said he once refused to buy her some small items at the drug store. That's something you might do for a friend. So he wasn't even a real friend but wanted sex for free.

    You can like a woman but not be interested in an exclusive relationship. But a man will eventually give something of value to a woman he wants to sleep with, if nothing else quality time not just a late night booty hit. Young women go through that all the time with someone they like, at first.
    Then they come to realize they are just being used for sex.

    It makes no difference gg's or ts, if you want sex from one over a period of time you are going to have to shareyourself and some of your wealth.



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    the nerve of some boys



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    Quote Originally Posted by TsVanessa69
    Quote Originally Posted by tonkatoy
    Ill take you to get an ice cream cone Vanessa
    And it would mean alot to me if somebody did. :P
    how bout that cone?



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    Chap stick, Mofungo? You kissed a whole lot of ass in this thread. Must be one of those guys who thinks by cosigning the ladies, it'll somehow result in you getting laid. You're wrong... and all around too.


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    At some point the woman has to take some responsibility.

    This "relationship" had been going on for 3-4 years and nothing changed. Sure, you voiced your concerns and let it be known that you weren't happy with what was going on between you two. But your actions were saying something totally different.

    I think its really unfortunate that you were treated badly, but you have to hold yourself accountable for allowing it to continue for so long. "Relationships" are two-way streets. You can just lay all the blame at his feet.



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