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    Pedantic? It's called "debating." You take a position and then you state your case.

    Interestingly, the second step is actually the more important of the two.

    But then again, as you said, your point doesn't really matter anyway. It's just a meaningless toss-off line.



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    AND LET THAT BE A LESSON TO YOU!


    John Ellis Bush in 2012!

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    Courtesy of the memorial WMC freedom of information unit:

    http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/


    Joe Wilson should have minded his wife's status from the beginning. If anyone should have been sued, Valerie should have named Joe at the top of the list. Instead, Joe had to grandstand after getting the assignment through the efforts of his wife that led to his star turn as Bush administration critic. There's nothing new about that; we've made that argument all along.

    If the judge had allowed it to go to trial, though, it still wouldn't have succeeded, because the actual leak in this case came from Richard Armitage, not Libby or anyone at the White House. In a civil suit, the damage has to come from the defendants, and no one could argue with a straight face that Armitage would have done Cheney's or Libby's bidding. The discovery that Armitage gave the information to Robert Novak should have closed the criminal investigation, and it should have mooted this particular suit, unless the Wilsons amended it to replace Cheney and Libby with Armitage. He did the actual damage, to the extent damage occurred at all.

    But the Plames didn't file this suit to recover from actual damages. They filed the suit to continue their status as darlings of the Left. It's hard to imagine that Joe Wilson could have acquitted himself on the stand well enough to keep the lawsuit from getting dismissed on the merits, even if it had survived on jurisdiction. Any cross-examination would have established his credibility as at near zero, and the case would have dissipated. The judge did them a favor; now they can claim judicial martyrdom, and their supporters have another cause to decry.


    John Ellis Bush in 2012!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guyone
    Courtesy of the memorial WMC freedom of information unit:

    Aka the Brownshirts. Then again, with the "unfortunate" departure of Ernst_Rohm_Canada and TFool, don't you think you're getting ahead of yourself by using the term "unit." Wouldn't it be more fair to borrow a phrase from this nation's military by calling yourself an "Army of One"?

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    As long as their is a drop of air in my lungs!


    John Ellis Bush in 2012!

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