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03-15-2014 #41
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The hijackers must've threatened the passengers and crew with paperclips, rubber bands and bra-hooks, 'cause everything else was scanned for and confiscated at airport security.
"Step back and hand over the controls...or I'll snap your eye out. NOW!"
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03-16-2014 #42
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Malaysian government: a "deliberate" action in cockpit caused 370 to deviate from designated flight plan.
10 days since the plane went missing and this is all they got.
God help us
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03-16-2014 #43
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Food for thought:
The Malaysian airlines story knocked the Commie red Russia invasion of defenseless Ukraine off the news. Could it be coincidence? I think not.
My money is on Putin shooting it down the plane- with Kool Aid Obama full support. Neither Putin or his ally Obama want people to talk about Ukraine. It is bad for them. Sadly, 40 millions Ukrainians were thrown under the bus.
The same story on this forum. Ukraine thread is buried somewhere in the politics thread while this topic is front and center in the main forum.
HA = MSNBC.
p.s: How is the NJ bridge gate going for you?
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03-16-2014 #44
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1 out of 1 members liked this post."...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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03-16-2014 #45
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conspiracy theorists are always so quick to jump on a cover up story or that something occurred to distract from something else. it is a very convenient argument as people want to believe that governments are always evil all the time. isn't it more likely that a more massive event could have been arranged to steal the headlines from the ukraine, than screwing with a country and flight that is otherwise meaningless? I mean here in NYC, the signing of phil jackson to the knicks was bigger news than this flight in recent days. while anything, including putin's involvement, is possible, it doesn't really seem all that plausible.
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Let's face it...some women just look better with their clothes ON
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03-17-2014 #46
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I don't know anything about this stuff but sure was an interesting read.
http://www.examiner.com/article/mala...ked-passengers
Malaysia jet hidden by Electronic Weaponry? 20 EW defense-linked passengers
March 9, 2014
Did Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 with 239 people aboard tragically disintegrate in mid-flight, as official investigators postulate? Or has it been disappeared with electronic weaponry used in electronic warfare that at least twenty passengers' employer is contracted by the Department of Defense to make, as this reporter posits?
While four passengers who boarded a missing Malaysian jet are under special investigation for stolen and other passport-related issues, twenty passengers were involved in cutting edge electronic technology used for defense purposes, including electronic warfare, such as weapons that can "cloak" or make planes invisible, appearing to vanish. If this is the case with the missing jet, the event points to terrorism.
The public is told that investigators report the missing Malaysian jet possibly "disintegrated" into thin air. "Officials investigating the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jetliner with 239 people on board suspect it may have disintegrated in mid-flight, a senior source said on Sunday, as Vietnam reported a possible sighting of wreckage from the plane," Reuters reports.
Adding to the mysterious tragedy is that not one country checked databases for information about stolen passports used to board the Malaysia Airlines flight. Interpol said Sunday that not one country checked its database for information about stolen passports used to board the Malaysia Airlines flight.
Secretary general of Interpol, Ronald K. Noble, said Sunday no checks had been conducted by the authorities in Malaysia or any other country about the two passports before the Boeing 777-200 left on Flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
In a forceful statement, Mr. Noble warned “only a handful of countries” around the world routinely made such checks.
“This is a situation we had hoped never to see,” he said. “For years, Interpol has asked why should countries wait for a tragedy to put prudent security measures in place at borders and boarding gates.”
Catastrophic events occurring during the cruise phase of flight are exceedingly rare these days. Given the altitude, few opportunities for weather or piloting deficiencies exist. Even an engine failure would still provide options.
Two aspects not reported regarding the mystery are: 1) using today's electronic weaponry, a plane can seemingly "vanish," and 2) passengers aboard the missing Malaysia jet linking to contracts with the Department of Defense defense and high-tech electronic weaponry.
Today's electronic warfare (EW) capability includes weaponry that can hide planes. Electronic weaponry is not only available, it is being deployed. Is this being used to hide or "cloak" the "vanished" plane?
Cloaking technology
New electronic weapons allow jamming, blinding, deafening and more, so that a plane could possibly vanish from radar detection and security systems would not be activated. Basic radar Electronic Counter-Measure strategies used in electronic warfare (EW) are: 1) radar interference, 2) target modifications, and 3) changing electrical properties of air.
For example, a U.S. intelligence assessment described to The Daily Beast by current and former U.S. intelligence officials, concluded any Israeli attack on Iran would go far beyond fighter plane airstrikes and would likely deploy EW against Iran’s electric grid, Internet, cellphone network, and emergency frequencies for firemen and police officers.
“For example, Israel has developed a weapon capable of mimicking a maintenance cellphone signal that commands a cell network to “sleep,” effectively stopping transmissions, officials confirmed. The Israelis also have jammers capable of creating interference within Iran’s emergency frequencies for first responders.”
In a 2007, “the Syrian military got a taste of this warfare when Israeli planes ‘spoofed’ the country’s air-defense radars, at first making it appear that no jets were in the sky and then in an instant making the radar believe the sky was filled with hundreds of planes.”
Last year, it was announced that new stealth technology makes airplanes invisible not only to radar, it also renders them hidden to the human eye as well — “just like an invisibility cloak in a Hollywood sci-fi thriller,” reported Military.com.
China had just touted its work on a “cloaking” technology using a hexagonal array of glass-like panels to bend light around an object, obscuring it from view, as though hidden by an invisibility cloak. Experts confirmed that the technology was legit — and not unlike American and European projects from the past few years.
“The general public … might not hear about how far the U.S. has really come, because it is and should remain classified,” firearms expert Chris Sajnog, a former Navy SEAL, told FoxNews.com. “Other countries are still playing catch-up — but they’re closing the gap.”
Military.com stated, “But while classified work progresses, several public projects from universities and military supply companies show just how real this futuristic technology is.”
“Major arms developers such as BAE Systems readily acknowledge work on this kind of technology, such as the Adaptiv program, which aims to hide armored vehicles.”
“The U.S. military is among many who have expressed interest in Adaptiv, which could be transferred to other platforms, such as ships and helicopters,” said Mike Sweeney, a spokesman for BAE.
On the other hand, some experts dispute these new technologies can work at all.
“Invisibility cloak is a poorly chosen term,” Thomas Way, associate professor of computing science at Villanova University, wrote to FoxNews.com in an email. “Invisible to what? We already have stealth aircraft that are invisible to radar (usually), but there is absolutely no way given our current understanding of physics that something could be made invisible to the naked eye… If that’s what they are claiming, it’s a hoax.”
In Electronic Warfare jargon, however, electronic countermeasure exists. ECM is an electrical or electronic device designed to trick or deceive radar, sonar or other detection systems, like infrared (IR) or lasers.
ECM can be used offensively and defensively to deny targeting information to an enemy.
The system can “make the real target appear to disappear or move about randomly. It is used effectively to protect aircraft from guided missiles.
“Most air forces use ECM to protect their aircraft from attack. It has also been deployed by military ships and recently on some advanced tanks to fool laser/IR guided missiles. It is frequently coupled with stealth advances so that the ECM systems have an easier job. Offensive ECM often takes the form of jamming. Defensive ECM includes using blip enhancement and jamming of missile terminal homers.”
Austin-based Freescale Semiconductor (NYSE:FSL) launched a major initiative dedicated to serving RF power needs of U.S. aerospace and defense (A&D) sector. It has a team of specialists dedicated to supporting defense customers.
Freescale confirmed yesterday that of the 239 passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, 20 are employed by the leading edge electronic company: twelve from Malaysia and eight from China.
The company’s key product solutions include those for electric vehicles, as this reporter highlighted yesterday:“Freescale Semiconductor (NYSE:FSL) is a global leader in embedded processing solutions, providing industry leading products that are advancing the automotive, consumer, industrial and networking markets,” the company says on its website and in its statement today. ”… our technologies are the foundation for the innovations that make our world greener, safer, healthier and more connected.”Freescale’s commercial products meet requirements of applications such as:
Freescale says its “key applications and end-markets include: automotive safety,hybrid and all-electric vehicles, next generation wireless infrastructure, smart energy management, portable medical devices, consumer appliances and smart mobile devices. The company is based in Austin, Texas, and has design, research and development, manufacturing and sales operations around the world. www.freescale.com
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- HF through L- and S-Band radar
- Missile guidance
- Electronic warfare
- Identification, friend or foe (IFF)
Human rights regarding security and privacy, possibly terrorism
Evidence of terrorism and human rights related to security and privacy continue mounting regarding the jet with 239 people on board, less than an hour after leaving Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, bound for Beijing.
While everyone who boarded the plane are being investigated, four are under particular investigation. Two had stolen passports to board the now vanished Malaysia plane. They bought their tickets with two other people who boarded the plane and are also targets of the investigation. Now, ESP reports that the stolen passports may have been found.
A Chinese national, whose passport number was listed on the passenger manifest, did not board the plane, is still in China, and this individual’s passport was never stolen, China’s state media reported. The stolen passport carriers and the other two suspects have increased officials’ suspicions that the event is one of terrorism, officials say, but continue to stress that the event has not been declared a terrorist event.
Hishammuddin Hussein, who holds two ministerial positions, said that “the four names are with me,” added that the investigation was focusing on “the entire passenger manifest,” and said FBI investigators have joined the probe.
Names of all the passengers is on the manifest here.
Military radar indicated the plane possibly turned from its flight route before losing contact: “There is a distinct possibility the airplane did a turn-back, deviating from the course,” Malaysian air force chief General Rodzali Daud said Sunday, citing radar data but not revealing which direction the plane possibly took when it went off route.
Malaysia Airlines (MAS) chief executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said the Boeing 777′s systems would have set off alarm bells if it changed course.
That, however, is assuming electronic weaponry was not used.
Sources: Reuters, CNN, New York Times, Military.com, The Daily Beast
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03-17-2014 #47catherinefanGuest
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You're late to the game; see my earlier post in this thread. Hannity the talking head already blamed it on Hussein, because of the bicycle helmet and the mom jeans. Bengazi!
And with the way the TEAhadists are sucking Putin's dick, you'd think they'd be happy with his actions. Make up your mind.
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03-19-2014 #49
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Conspiracy Theories...
The guys stating a bunch of disjointed facts and hoping to overwhelm you with lingo.
Equiping a plan with stealth technology doesn't require putting 20 passangers on board.
Stealth, not EW, hides a plane from radar (EW can jam a radar, camoflauging the plane in hundreds of other targets- but that didn't happen)
Stealth would require adding lots of structural and visual changes to the 777, plus the idea of a pressurized, cylindrical stealth airliner is about impossable.
Hiding a plane from Secondary radar, or flight tracking (ACARS, Spider trax, etc) is as simple as pulling a fuse. While you could take this capability away, compare the number of passangers lost to electrical fires (thousands) to the number to be saved by post crash flight tracking (0, though some lives might be saved by improved forensics, preventing the original condition from reocouring.)
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03-19-2014 #50
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landed on a island somewhere, about to be another WTC...ur americans have no chance
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