The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

[trish]

Thank you, broncofan and yosi, for your thoughts.

This story resonated with me in two ways. I’ve been that girl with a busted ride and I am thankful to the family pulled aside and came to my rescue. But I’ve also been on the other side of fence. When I got my first faculty post I rented an old but very nice house on what some regarded to be a bit of a seedy street. One night I woke to a banging at my front door. Did I grab my handy five pound cast iron skillet (my personal weapon of choice)? No. I peeked through the blinds and then opened the door to a bleary eyed drunk who slurred, “Where’s ssa sa sa party?” I responded, “No party here, and besides you’ve had enough.” After a few exchanges I managed to find out that he was a student, found out what dorm he lived in and offered him a ride. Was I scared? Damn right I was scared. I ran to kitchen, selected my largest aluminum kettle and made him sit with it between his knees all the way to the dorm. I was never so frightened that some fucking asshole, who I don’t even know, was going to toss his burritos all over the interior of my ride.

These days, pounding on someone’s door at night is an unforgivable offense punishable with extreme prejudice. Interesting word, “prejudice.”

[broncofan]

Another good point. I might be scared of someone knocking on my door late at night. I might not want to open the door to them and help them. I would never think I had the right to kill them or that they had done anything deserving of even the slightest bit of violence towards them. Did he ask who it was?

It is so far below any normal standard of human behavior to shoot someone looking for help and knocking at your front door. It is clearly a sickness. Spite towards other people and a disdain for civilized behavior causes someone to make a mistake like this.

Some mistakes are the result of having a certain culpable attitude.

[beatmaker]

Soooooooooooo....


With all the crazy'ness in the world goin on....


What do all the firearm owners in on the forum think YOUR president will do about arms in January???


I tried to get as many 18 rnd 9mm & 14 rnd .45ACP mags I could find before the ban takes place.....and there WILL be one!


But....EVERYWHERE I go...All "Hi-Cap" Mags & Rifles are gone!!!!!!



I couldnt even get one!!!!!


Unreal.......


Gun shops are chaging almost $200 for ONE used 30 rnd magazine....


Its all about the money I guess!!!!!


No one said anything when the IRS ( Internel Revenue Service ) bought 1,000,000 rounds of 9mm!


WTF does the IRS need with a million rounds of 9mm!
Damn...They got all the money....now they want all the ammo too ?!....


SOMETHING is going down.....WAKE THE FUCK up people!!!!

Share your thoughts!


Eve,


xoxo

Really TS Evelyn Summers,

You refer to President Barack Obama as YOUR president, as in not yours. Who's your President then? Since you live in Las Vegas, Nevada, which last time I checked was part of the United States. In addition, your senior Senator Harry Reid is the US Senate majority leader, making him along with U.S House minority leader Nancy Pelosi, part of President Obama's core team. I'm assuming you voted for that nutjob Sharon Angle, if you referring to President Obama as "YOUR" president. I didnt care for George Bush and think he did some funny business in Florida and Ohio to put him over the hump in the 2000 & 2004 elections (the precursor to the current GOP voting disenfranchisement tactics). However, at the end of the day, he was "MY" President for 8 years and I have to respect that.

I expected these paranoid comments in 2008, but this man has been in office for 5 years and people are still talking about him taking guns, raising taxes on regular, hard working, instituting socialism, being from Kenya etc. I find it funny that when Bush and Cheney were trampling on your private liberties, instituting Medicare Part D and mailing tax distribution checks up to $600, overreaching tax cuts from the upper tax bracket, that resulted in zero job growth, the conservatives didnt say anything (except the Ron Paul Libertarian crowd). Now they're whining about the NSA, runaway spending and Chinese indebtness, really! The Republicans love to beat up President Jimmy Carter, but he actually created more jobs and cut more debt, than President George W Bush Jr. Google it. He did have taxes too high, I was a small child at the time though. I feel the Obama administration has been a continuation of the same privacy abuses, I can admit that. He knows if something happens on his watch, the right-wing will eviscerate him as Mr. Liberal Pinko and his legacy will be forever smeared. One of President Obama's weaknesses and he's starting to break this bad habit, is allowing GOP criticism and pundits, to move him off his square with fear tactics and misinformation campaigns. When critics of Bush/Cheney questioned their policies, you were chastised and accused of supporting the terrorists (shaming tactics). I voted for Obama, as Romney was a puppet for the 1%. Well at least he is one, unlike these wannabees John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

Listen, does President Obama want sensible gun control? YES! However, this disarming Americans nonsense is standard Tea Party propaganda. Why someone has to own a stockpile of assault rifles and crates of bullets. This has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. A missile launcher is an arm, should I be able to buy one on the open market. What about an actual missile then? The Constitution has to have some reasonable interpretation. Michael Moore touched on the deep seated pathology of what drives these gun addicts, in "Bowling For Columbine".

I'm a Black man, so I'm a harsh critic of government, even the Obama administration and trust no adminstration. The FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C still has J Edgar Hoover's name on it. A man who was a out and out racist and who was hellbent on squashing Blacks leaders and progress like a bug. If he had the same track record against Jewish leaders and civil rights groups like the JDL (I'll admit he was an anti-Semite too), the name would have been changed decades ago. At the end of the day, the international banking elite, really run the show here and abroad. They control the Federal Reserve and print money (fiat currency) and set interest rates, at their own behest. They also keep many countries of color in economic peonage, thru the IMF (read Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins).

TS Evelyn Summers, I see your a Black transgendered woman, by your pictures. I'm not one to say all Blacks need to be monoliths and support Barack Obama, because he's Black. However, this contempt and need to distance yourself from him, by calling him "YOUR" President, is extremely pathological. It reminds me of an incident last weekend, where me and my friend were discussing some business plans in a Manhattan Starbucks and this attractive Black woman was sitting with some nerdy, short, chubby White guy. She was giving us these dirty looks the whole time. It was some Aunt Esther from "Sanford and Son" shyt. Like us sitting at the table next to her, was psychologically unsettling. The Willie Lynch syndrome at its finest. I read your interest and it's all this materialistic $$$ bullshyt literally. When I read your remark about President Obama and then these shallow interests, I thought of the Negro Bed Wench "Sheeba" from the movie Django. The one who was Calvin Candy's mistress (Sadly these Judases really existed and they got what was rightfully coming to them, when insurrections did occur). There was a scene from Django, when Sheeba was at the bar getting some champagne and Django walks up to the bar next to her. She literally gave him a look of sheer disgust and walked off with her champagne, like she was that chick. Interesting, how a White dude like Tarantino, put that scene into the movie. However, he has dated numerous Black women and has probably picked up on this mindset, from a few. Sadly, some White guys thrive off this "Ghetto Gagger" mindset, that is starting to become more and more pervasive.

I'm sure "Scandal" is one of your favorite shows. Most Black women who think like you, eat that nonsense up. You can call President Obama "YOUR" president if you'd like, but that brown doesn't rub off missy and you will never be completely accepted by the dominant society, no matter how much you pander. As soon as Black Republicans Colin Powell and Michael Steele exhibited some independent thought, they were vilified and even called racist names on many Conservative blogs and message boards. Secretary Powell was booed at the Republican convention, for admonishing his party on their lack of racial inclusiveness. Nothing has changed, they cant even pass a no-brainer like immigration reform, which I have some issues with myself. They'd rather win statewide and national elections, by rigging and gerrymandering elections. Why an African-American would support a party engaged in almost RICO like behavior, as far as widespread, systematic voter rights abuses and "stop and frisk" programs in beyond me. It reaks of Stockholm Syndrome.

[Stavros]

I read this article in the New York Review of Books recently, and was struck by this passage:

As has been widely noted, especially since the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School last December, our mental health care system is in disarray. The asylums where people with serious disorders could once receive care were mostly closed down by the end of the Reagan era—probably for good reason, in many cases, but with no better alternative created to replace them. In 1955, public psychiatric hospitals had beds for 558,239 severely mentally ill patients. Had that number increased in proportion to the growth of the national population, it would have reached 885,000 by 1994. Instead, by 1994, the nation’s public psychiatric hospitals had only 71,619 beds, while general hospitals, community mental health centers, and private psychiatric hospitals had perhaps another 70,000 between them for patients with severe mental illness.

I wonder what the relationship is between gun violence -particularly men going berserk in cinemas, schools and malls, and mental illness -I suspect most of the perpetrators have been treated or needed help.

Note the article is about an analysis of sexual victimization in prisons: juveniles in adult prisons, and juveniles in juvenile facilities, where most of the abuse takes place and is mostly caused by prison staff. Fascinating, if depressing reading.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/arch...idence/?page=2

[trish]

This from Stavros' link above

[notdrunk]

So you favored legislation that attempted to limit the sale of firearms to only responsible buyers? You favored legislation that sought to require background checks and eliminate loopholes? Or have you spoken against laws that encourage responsible gun ownership?

Enforce current federal laws and let the states decide if they want to expand their own gun laws.

[broncofan]

As if gun sales in one state can't affect the safety of citizens in another state. The entire reason Congress can regulate interstate commerce is because travel throughout this country is unencumbered. This goes for goods and people, who travel across state lines freely. By having fifty different regulations regarding product safety, you end up having a race to the bottom for standards. Those with the loosest standards will have the greatest sales and people will travel from one state to another to avoid useful regulations that would block their ownership of weapons.

[notdrunk]

As if gun sales in one state can't affect the safety of citizens in another state. The entire reason Congress can regulate interstate commerce is because travel throughout this country is unencumbered. This goes for goods and people, who travel across state lines freely. By having fifty different regulations regarding product safety, you end up having a race to the bottom for standards. Those with the loosest standards will have the greatest sales and people will travel from one state to another to avoid useful regulations that would block their ownership of weapons.

With the current state of Congress? Not going to happen.

[robertlouis]

I spotted elsewhere that a number of gun groups are planning demonstrations on the anniversary of Sandy Hook.

I give up. There is no hope, none at all. How sick can you be?

[thombergeron]

With the current state of Congress? Not going to happen.

Hey! We agree on something! I, for one, am pleased to have reached this point with you in this discussion.

But as Gabby Giffords wrote recently, "if we cannot make our communities safer with the Congress we have now, we will use every means available to make sure we have a different Congress, one that puts communities’ interests ahead of the gun lobby’s."

Gun control is not going away. We will have an effective federal gun control regime. It is in our national interest to promote public health, and that's what gun control is.

I live in a very safe district, so you won't be surprised where my political donations will be going next year.