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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricWoody View Post
    Can I see a copy of your Tax Return before I donate. Its very important. And on another note, aren't you rich. This issue has been going on since last year for everyones info. Why now.
    Now because now is when the thread was started here asking for money. Seems logical that people would want to know at least a little before donating anyhow - one idea of charity is that you know what you give is used responsibly, if you don't know what for sort of defeats the object.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikka View Post
    tell me a better job for a tranny and please don´t tell me prostitution
    There are jobs, but it requires a privileged background that affords ample educational opportunities early in life and the luck of the draw to not encounter bigoted assholes as you transition.

    Sadly, as you point out, those two criteria are out of reach of many transsexuals.


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    At the root of this case is the growth of the argument that nobody chooses to be a sex worker, and that they must therefore have a pimp, or be a victim of human trafficking. Across the USA states are adopting the 'Nordic Model' that makes it a criminal offence to buy and sell sex, with Federal money allocated that encourages law enforcement to take a 'pro-active' view of sex work as illegal work, from entrapment to summary arrest and harassment, including LE officers lying in court. Vice.com has produced a readable but depressing account of the 'sex work is human trafficking' issue in New York here-
    http://www.vice.com/read/sex-workers...-0000550-v22n1

    Without making a specific reference to the case of Jessy Dubai, there is a paradox here, because on the one hand Colorado scores highly as an LGBTQIAP-friendly state based on issues of human rights, employment, and incidences of hate crime, but is also a state where it is illegal to buy or sell sex, and where the aggressive prosecution of sex workers fits in with the 'sex work is human trafficking' argument.

    In 2015 the US government allocated $44m to combat human trafficking in 16 locations across the USA; Colorado received $750,000 to provide 'Comprehensive Services for Victims of Human Trafficking Program', and the city of Denver received $599,495 for 'specialized services' meaning court and probation services for 'male and female juveniles with a focus on LGBTQ trafficking victims'.
    The Department of Justice press release is here-
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attor...rafficking-and

    -The list of locations and services allocated Federal funding is in this pdf-
    http://ojp.gov/newsroom/pdfs/HT_Full_Chart_V.3.pdf

    I don't believe anyone who contributes to Hung Angels would ever condone human trafficking of any kind, but surely it is the responsibility of law enforcement to prove that a person charged has indeed engaged in human trafficking. For those caught up in the legal process, as the vice.com article above shows, innocence does not prevent the accused suffering from tremendous emotional stress, while the costs of that legal process make the concept of 'Justice' appear hollow to those who are indeed innocent.

    The law in Colorado-
    http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...s-colorado.htm


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    We still don't know what the charges are, and until then it doesn't make sense arguing about something no one knows about. If you want to donate that is fine, I do think it is fair for people donating to know why. Also, prostitution generally doesn't carry a maximum 20 year sentence by itself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendy Summers View Post
    There are jobs, but it requires a privileged background that affords ample educational opportunities early in life and the luck of the draw to not encounter bigoted assholes as you transition.

    Sadly, as you point out, those two criteria are out of reach of many transsexuals.
    I'm not saying this to titillate, to provide fodder for sex flicks, or anything of the kind...but she should hope one of her bloodsucking atty's is looking for that thing she got and use it to her advantage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendy Summers View Post
    There are jobs, but it requires a privileged background that affords ample educational opportunities early in life and the luck of the draw to not encounter bigoted assholes as you transition.

    Sadly, as you point out, those two criteria are out of reach of many transsexuals.
    It makes me happy to say that I personally know, or have seen working, trans women who have "regular" jobs like anyone else outside of the sex industry: an attorney; a paralegal; a salesperson at Home Depot; a salesperson at IKEA; 2 who work at the makeup dept in Macy's; a hairdresser; a parking lot attendant; a maid at a hotel; and one who works at Starbucks. I live in Los Angeles and maybe there is more tolerance here but most of these jobs do not require a privileged background that affords ample educational opportunities early in life nor the luck of the draw. However, they do require consistency, punctuality, patience, the tolerance to work with others, and the desire to blend into the mainstream. I recognize that not all TS women may want those things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovecox View Post
    However, they do require consistency, punctuality, patience, the tolerance to work with others, and the desire to blend into the mainstream. I recognize that not all TS women may want those things.
    So easy to be all elitist with too many of these kids getting thrown out by their families like so much garbage


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    I don't know if there is a connection, but this article may relate to Jessi's case. Your federal tax dollars at work
    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...ek-in-colorado
    Note, most of the arrests mentioned in this article were for prostitution. Great use of FBI resources in the weeks leading to Orlando. Way to go, FBBi's.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Post Op Preferred View Post
    I don't know if there is a connection, but this article may relate to Jessi's case. Your federal tax dollars at work
    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...ek-in-colorado
    Note, most of the arrests mentioned in this article were for prostitution. Great use of FBI resources in the weeks leading to Orlando. Way to go, FBBi's.
    Wait, you're pissed about FBI busting these child predators?


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    Well everything about this is strange to say the very least. She says she's being targeted because she is a porn star and because she is trans. She says she went from being "fine" to over $75,000 in debt within 3 days. She said her man posted bail of 40k for her. No idea where the other 35k of debt came from. She says she is looking at 20 to life one time then later she says 25 to life later...maybe a simple mistake. She says she has a public defender and the case is going before a grand jury at some point.

    I don't know what the hell the other charges could be but judge's don't set $40,000 bonds just because you are a ts porn star. I just googled $40,000 bond Colorado and the cases you get are bank robbery, drug distribution (meth, coke), child porn, child sexual abuse, and negligent child abuse resulting in death.



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