Trannies for Trump

[Nick Danger]

First, I'm not a liberal. Second, Trump voters are not realists. Yes, he was elected because of backlash, but voting for him was an idiotic thing to do, as he proves daily.

Now call me some names to prove how intelligent you are instead of talking about Trump's lack of qualifications for office.

Not a big name-caller me. When I do call someone a name though, I prefer "miserable wretch."

I'm not clear on what the complaints are about Trump. He fucked a porn star? Good for him! Wants to build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants? Sounds quite reasonable. Shady business dealings? His are simply more public than the other candidates. Huge ego? I'd think that would be a prerequisite for thinking you ought to be President. Tweets too much? Why is that worse than keeping secrets? World's biggest asshole? I want my President to be the world's biggest asshole, but unfortunately I think Putin's got him beat.

Anyway, yeah, country's doing FANTASTIC!! Market's at an all-time high, unemployment at a very low level, every other country on the planet is now scared to death of us, and we're deporting illegal immigrants en masse for the first time in my lifetime.

But gee, we could have had Hillary. If only there were more Americans who actually believed in the liberal agenda anymore. People are getting smarter. I mean, not liberals, they're still living the same fantasy - but people in general, here in the Information Age, are starting to realize that taking care of business is quite a bit more important to this country than taking care of special interest groups or shoving multi-culturalism down people's throats.

Obama had 8 years of liberalizing America. And when it was over, we said, uh yeah, you know what? No.

[filghy2]

Your smug elitism is EXACTLY how Trump won in 2016 and if you keep it up it will be your fault when he wins re-election in 2020

And I say that as a Jill Stein voter. Not a Trumptard. Nor a Putin bot.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't recall you saying a single negative word about Trump on this forum, and only negative things about the other side. And what exactly is your prescription for defeating Trump in 2020?

Also, what is anti-elite about a President whose main domestic priorities have been massive tax cuts for the very rich, taking benefits away from people at the bottom and reducing regulation of corporations?

[Paladin]

He does that, but his party is the one who impeached Bill Clinton for an affair with a consenting adult. What a bunch of fucking HYPOCRITES they are!

It wasn't for the act, it was for LYING UNDER OATH.

[Paladin]

First, I'm not a liberal. Second, Trump voters are not realists. Yes, he was elected because of backlash, but voting for him was an idiotic thing to do, as he proves daily.

Now call me some names to prove how intelligent you are instead of talking about Trump's lack of qualifications for office.

My retirement accounts would tend to disagree with you.

[Torris]

[QUOTE=filghy2;1838725]Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't recall you saying a single negative word about Trump on this forum, and only negative things about the other side. And what exactly is your prescription for defeating Trump in 2020?
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I don’t come here for politics, but sometimes the shit said by people on this site is staggeringly anti-Deplorable. Those of us who live in Elvis country are really sensitive to people who didn’t vote for Hillary as being called stupid.

My mom, sister, father, brother in law all voted for Trump. They are not stupid and they are not bad people

And as to massive tax cuts for the rich? Maybe you don’t have a job, but my personal take home pay went up about $300 a month. Democrats in my state just upped the sales tax rate. Again. and nearly doubled my water/sewer bill

Take responsibility for Trump’s victory. Or it doesn’t matter who runs against him in 2020 bc your contempt for working class white people will not win you elections outside of the West Coast and North East

[Stavros]

I'm not clear on what the complaints are about Trump. He fucked a porn star? Good for him! Wants to build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants? Sounds quite reasonable. Shady business dealings? His are simply more public than the other candidates. Huge ego? I'd think that would be a prerequisite for thinking you ought to be President. Tweets too much? Why is that worse than keeping secrets? World's biggest asshole? I want my President to be the world's biggest asshole, but unfortunately I think Putin's got him beat.
Anyway, yeah, country's doing FANTASTIC!! Market's at an all-time high, unemployment at a very low level, every other country on the planet is now scared to death of us, and we're deporting illegal immigrants en masse for the first time in my lifetime.

-People, even Americans, have the right to expect that their Head of State will behave in a decent manner, to earn rather than buy respect (which is worth nothing when bought), and that he (or she) will not regularly insult and abuse Gold Star families, Veterans, the Disabled and his own government institutions such as the FBI.

-The rate of unemployment has been falling since the first Obama Administration, so if you want to crow about it, at least slot the Obama years into the frame even if it means your dismissal of 'liberal' politics then appears phoney -which it is.

-Illegal immigrants were deported 'en masse' during the Obama Presidency, so if nothing has changed -other than the aggressive and offensive language used - what was it that 'liberal' government got wrong?

-this thread is about the support for the Confederacy in power that 'trannies' might have been willing to give them, but when it comes to the reversal of 'liberal' policy with regard to transgendered Americans serving in the military, or the 'bathroom' issue, you have nothing to say and as Ben in LA has been pointing out with justification, it seems so odd that people would support a President who acts against their interests that you wonder if they now regret giving their support.

-Finally, you would do well to consider that you are being played by a man who in reality has no interest in the USA but only in himself and the means whereby he can make himself richer than he already claims to be, who makes foreign policy decisions on trade with China that benefit him personally, who takes a position on Qatar that benefits his son-in-law, and that is without including the Russian involvement in his election.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/o...-security.html

This is the most nakedly corrupt Administration in US history but it seems you don't care; but you would do better to show some sympathy for those transgendered Americans being marginalized in their own country with no regard to their patriotism, their bravery, their aspirations -or indeed, their rights.

[filghy2]

And as to massive tax cuts for the rich? Maybe you don’t have a job, but my personal take home pay went up about $300 a month. Democrats in my state just upped the sales tax rate. Again. and nearly doubled my water/sewer bill

Take responsibility for Trump’s victory. Or it doesn’t matter who runs against him in 2020 bc your contempt for working class white people will not win you elections outside of the West Coast and North East

The top 1% will get 83% of the gains from the tax changes. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-policy-center The bottom half of income earners will actually pay more tax after 2025 because their tax cuts expire. Also, the tax cuts are mostly paid for by borrowing and who do you think will pay for that in the long run?

Sorry, but you're being conned by a master conman. Or am I not allowed to point this out because that would be showing contempt?

[BostonBad]

Top 1% pay most of the taxes.

Tax the rich too much and they reduce investment and some will even leave. America should focus on growing the pie rather playing the game of envy. Why be jealous of others. Life is good lets suck some ts dick and be happy.

[Nick Danger]

-People, even Americans, have the right to expect that their Head of State will behave in a decent manner, to earn rather than buy respect (which is worth nothing when bought), and that he (or she) will not regularly insult and abuse Gold Star families, Veterans, the Disabled and his own government institutions such as the FBI.

-The rate of unemployment has been falling since the first Obama Administration, so if you want to crow about it, at least slot the Obama years into the frame even if it means your dismissal of 'liberal' politics then appears phoney -which it is.

-Illegal immigrants were deported 'en masse' during the Obama Presidency, so if nothing has changed -other than the aggressive and offensive language used - what was it that 'liberal' government got wrong?

-this thread is about the support for the Confederacy in power that 'trannies' might have been willing to give them, but when it comes to the reversal of 'liberal' policy with regard to transgendered Americans serving in the military, or the 'bathroom' issue, you have nothing to say and as Ben in LA has been pointing out with justification, it seems so odd that people would support a President who acts against their interests that you wonder if they now regret giving their support.

-Finally, you would do well to consider that you are being played by a man who in reality has no interest in the USA but only in himself and the means whereby he can make himself richer than he already claims to be, who makes foreign policy decisions on trade with China that benefit him personally, who takes a position on Qatar that benefits his son-in-law, and that is without including the Russian involvement in his election.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/o...-security.html

This is the most nakedly corrupt Administration in US history but it seems you don't care; but you would do better to show some sympathy for those transgendered Americans being marginalized in their own country with no regard to their patriotism, their bravery, their aspirations -or indeed, their rights.

Not 100% sure you've got your facts straight, Stavros. I'd like to see some attribution of your claim that Obama deported illegal immigrants en masse, for one thing.

Obama was a good leader. He had/has that quality. Highly intelligent, likeable, funny. He was the President we had but not the President we needed.

It's a corrupt world, Stavros. VERY corrupt. As in, corruption is the norm and altruism is the aberration.

Trump voters know he is corrupt. We know he is a cheeto-skinned, pelt-haired, patently dishonest, egomaniacal, self-serving madman.

But we're okay with that. Because what America needs right now is someone who will serve us by serving himself. That ego of his is his best quality. It won't allow him to fail, and FYI, he is not failing, he's doing an amazing job. He's taking a hard line on trade. He's lying to the American public in order to pass tax cuts for the rich, which is what got us here in the first place - rich, corrupt people want to live in America, and that's what makes us the strongest country in the history of the planet, whatever delusions the poor, uneducated masses might have about manifest destiny or us being "the good guys."

As for Trump's moves against transsexuals, well, it was coming. His voting base is the religious right, he is going to cater to them, and they do not like transsexuals. But this is only token action. How many t-girls do you know who actually want to join the Army, Stavros? How many do you know who have not already worked out the bathroom situation on their own terms? Are these important issues? Not at all, but they seem important to Trump's voting base. Do I care about this? Sorry, I just don't see these things as being particularly important to transsexuals, and I'm 100% certain that the next Democratic administration - however far in the future it may be - will squash all of Trump's anti-gay/anti-trans agenda.

Good post, Stavros, well-written and concise. But unfortunately, none of your talking points are relevant compared to the reality of our country's unquenchable thirst for enriching and empowering itself at the expense of the rest of the planet. That's realpolitik.

[dirtrail]

This man speaks the truth. Calling half the country deplorables and demonizing gun owners is a sure way to win elections!!🙄

Interesting to go back to the beginning of this thread and look at the posting dates. Most of these comments were made back when a Trump presidency didn't seem at all realistic, certainly not inevitable. I can't think of anyone I know who actually thought Trump would win until he won.

There's something about Donald Trump that liberals don't understand - Trump is backlash. Against you, and liberal politics. Liberals are merely intelligent, compassionate, normal people who haven't given the matter of Liberal vs Conservative politics enough thought. You can't have it all. You can't save everyone. It doesn't help people when you give them handouts. We don't need warning labels on our coffee. No, and no, and no, and no - the answer to all your questions is actually "No," but confirmation bias has turned YOUR answer into "Yes." Because you're an idealist.

Trump voters are realists. And they are sending a message - they simply don't want want the politics the Democrats are offering. California is warning enough against too long a descent into liberalism.

Now go ahead, have at me you crazy liberal fuckers.