Shall we stay or shall we go???????

[Lysandros]

As continental European
I am surprised at all these discussions
because all supporters of EU leaving obviously don't want to see the high risk to destroy the own British Union as consequence. And only "little England" remaining?
Scotland will use a distinct majority PRO EU in SCO in favour of a new attempt to gain independency if UK say yes to leave EU. To my mind the "Irish question" (Irish Unification) will come to life again. The demographic characteristics ( religious, ethnically etc.) in N.I. turn against the British loyalists in any case. And I'm not sure what happens in Wales?

Leaving UK = Dissoluting UK ??

[Stavros]

The UK has to import more than half it's food needs = therefore it's overpopulated. The carrying capacity of the land has been outstripped by a factor of 2+.

No amount of 'politically correct' sophistry can get around that fact.

Vote OUT if you know what's good for you.

The UK has been a net importer of food since the Corn Laws were repealed in 1846. What do you think was considered to be a benefit of the Empire if not its exotic spices and fruits, its tea and coffee? Britons eat a greater diversity of food today than they have ever done, whether that is due to immigrants from Asia and the Caribbean or Elizabeth David in the 1950s persuading Britons to cook Italian dishes at home. Indeed, the diversity of the population has increased the market for food products in both import and export terms, but time and again one finds deficiencies in the way the British make food, and market and distribute it, and not all this is anything to do with the EU. Leaving the EU does not solve any of the problems of food production and distribution in the UK.
You can read a good overview on this topic here-
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...s-1445706.html

[The Piper]

EUTIN(European taxpayer identification number) has been the straw that broke the camels back for me.My postal vote has gone in,i'm for out.


http://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/f...pean-taxation/

[Lysandros]

Leaving UK = Dissoluting UK ??

Sorry for error !!

Leaving EU = Dissoluting UK ??

[Stavros]

EUTIN(European taxpayer identification number) has been the straw that broke the camels back for me.My postal vote has gone in,i'm for out.

It is no surprise that Liam Fox is opposed to the European Tax Identification Number, as he is opposed on principle to most taxes, just as it is no surprise that he ignores completely the primary purpose of the tax which is to combat tax fraud in transactions made by companies across the EU and is thus primarily focused on commercial enterprises. You already have a tax identification number anyway so what is the problem?

[ElectricWoody]

If you talk about it, you'll never do it. Just like Smoking. Just looking for a shoulder to cry on maybe.

[The Piper]

the primary purpose of the tax which is to combat tax fraud

So you admit there will be a tax.
Don't be naive enough to think the money will only be used to combat tax fraud,in a few years time the money you pay will be used for other projects thru'out Europe.
Who wrote the article is irrelevant.What is relevant is the fact this has tried to be implemented without lucidity.
The EU now expect each and every one of it's 500+Million residents to pay on top of what they contribute to their own country.Some of which is passed to the EU anyway.And you can't see why i have a problem with that.
I said for me it was the straw that broke the camels back,i have numerous "problems"with the E.U,this only being one of them.

[sean1916]

As continental European
I am surprised at all these discussions
because all supporters of EU leaving obviously don't want to see the high risk to destroy the own British Union as consequence. And only "little England" remaining?
Scotland will use a distinct majority PRO EU in SCO in favour of a new attempt to gain independency if UK say yes to leave EU. To my mind the "Irish question" (Irish Unification) will come to life again. The demographic characteristics ( religious, ethnically etc.) in N.I. turn against the British loyalists in any case. And I'm not sure what happens in Wales?

Leaving UK = Dissoluting UK ??

Irish Unification has never died.

[sean1916]

Our revenge will be the laughter of our children.

- Bobby Sands

[bruce_willy]

Leaving the EU does not solve any of the problems of food production and distribution in the UK.

But it could be a step to reducing the consumers of food.