To trans women and girls that shame guys who like to bottom!

[love4ts2]

There are all kinds of people in this world. I have never met a tgirl who wasn't happy doing verse play with me. It sure always felt like we both enjoyed whatever we were doing at any given time. So, you definitely can't generalize just as much as I can't generalize thinking that I could have the same great experience with all tgirls.

[Chaos]

I've still not been with anything but GG's ...BUT what I know (from friends in the industry and not) is that labels are useless.
If other people want them,fine....but really,why worry? I'm not gay,I'm not straight,I'm not bi....the ONLY label that matters is my NAME. You (or anyone) can call me whatever you like...doesn't matter to me.
I like what I like,that doesn't mean I am defined by it...unless I CHOOSE to be.Words are just random noise made by air and vibrations... A breeze never hurt anyone....Melody is right....OWN that shit....then they can't get to you.

[BCboyCOMINGatYA!]

I've still not been with anything but GG's ...BUT what I know (from friends in the industry and not) is that labels are useless.
If other people want them,fine....but really,why worry? I'm not gay,I'm not straight,I'm not bi....the ONLY label that matters is my NAME. You (or anyone) can call me whatever you like...doesn't matter to me.
I like what I like,that doesn't mean I am defined by it...unless I CHOOSE to be.Words are just random noise made by air and vibrations... A breeze never hurt anyone....Melody is right....OWN that shit....then they can't get to you.

oh the disheartening part is the search, as lifeisfiction pointed out, thats just a number things and they are heavily wieghed against me, but that is what is, there is no possible chance for change in that (And actually I think its about to get a lot harder lol) . The words dont hurt, made it clear in the post that I was telling them to give their head shake. It'll be useless to most, maybe all, who knows . Thanks for the answers people.

But we dont need to turn into pats on the back for me, I am 32 , I knew I loved tgirls at 18. I did alright for myself as far as girls I was seeing back in my early 20's. Bit of a heart break so I stepped away. But like any dog I come wandering back home again

I am not out and open and scream from the mountain tops I take girl cock, but I will go out with any girl I like mostly anywhere. I like it when people look lol. My family has considered me bi(I guess) since I was 20 when I told them I am attracted to tgirls (Big mistake, but hey, live and learn !)

I get why they dislike guys like me, they are allowed to, just like society is allowed to hate them for what they are right? It is what it is sadly. But society is being taught new things, I thought maybe its time to throw it out there . #Bottomguys4tgirlsmatter !

[holzz]

there is a reason most escorts tend to be tops. or porn stars. it's what sells and want most may want.

i think like everything, there are different reasons for it. some reckon it's gay, others don't, some think bottoming is less manly, others don't. i think bottoms also come in various forms. for some it's because it really hits their spots, literally and figuratively. for otehrs, it's dominance, for some it's a halfway house to do it with a cisgender male.

[holzz]

so much text i will answer later but is not only males everything that get fucked get shame wheter girl or guy


have u heard about slut shaming? girls get shame for getting fucked, boys gets glory for fucking

for fucking a lot maybe, but then women have to take, unless they grow cocks and fuck...

[holzz]

to answer OP, I think it's a mix of...well TS women are human. it IS hypocritical to condemn others and then say "treat me humaaaaan!!!!" but then meh, humans are hypocrites. it's how it is.

and despite PC society, many do still think men should give in sex and only women take......i sometimes think people on the WWW tend to just say shit they don't mean, or dont' care since it's anonymous. or they really do think in liberal sex, but then for whatever reason don't say it in public.

Or dont hang about with judgmental people, imho this is the issue you have.

as fro tranny chasers, or being accused of such, i dunno. I guess it's because they have men who fuck them and dump them, and you can understand why if you were in their position.

but i've had escorts tell me i'm a fag or a gay boy for bottoming,, or saying "why are you bottoming? is it a state of mind, do you like to dress up or be feminine??" hahahahahaaha...no, i don't think i ever could crossdress, and i like to bottom since it feels good, little else.

[peacheater]

Seems to me that people might be missing the OPs point. Yes, it's understandable that most trans women probably aren't comfortable with topping considering that they identify as female and traditionally women aren't dominant within sexual roles. Although even that could be argued is due to cultural "norms" - and if anything the LGTB community represent the stark reality that "norms" are not absolutes and definitely should not be forced upon people if it's not their nature.

Now, given how quick the LGTB community are to cry "bigot" "homophobe" "transphobe" etc when their nature is shamed, ridiculed or criticized, don't you think they would be a wee more considerate of others whose sexual interests also deviate from the "norm"?

Or maybe the experiences the OP mentions are just proof that being an asshole has nothing to do with gender? Assholes, we've all got one, and anyone can be one.

[MrFanti]

I'd like to hear more transgender women's responses here. Especially from both sides (those that have a desire to go post-op and those that don't).

[holzz]

Seems to me that people might be missing the OPs point. Yes, it's understandable that most trans women probably aren't comfortable with topping considering that they identify as female and traditionally women aren't dominant within sexual roles. Although even that could be argued is due to cultural "norms" - and if anything the LGTB community represent the stark reality that "norms" are not absolutes and definitely should not be forced upon people if it's not their nature.

Now, given how quick the LGTB community are to cry "bigot" "homophobe" "transphobe" etc when their nature is shamed, ridiculed or criticized, don't you think they would be a wee more considerate of others whose sexual interests also deviate from the "norm"?

Or maybe the experiences the OP mentions are just proof that being an asshole has nothing to do with gender? Assholes, we've all got one, and anyone can be one.

his point was clear. i stand by saying...well humans are hypocrites. humans are contrary. humans are complex. being trans still makes one human. i'm a cis male who detests prejudice but dislikes arabs, and who loves freedom but thinks junk food should be banned..go figure that out, i have i don't give a fuck..lol.

[runningdownthatdream]

I am not sure what this forum is like for this subject, I did do a search but didnt turn much up.

I am 32 and live in vancouver, there is an ok tg scene here but just way too many guys that like them to a slightly lame number of trans girls . Over my years, I have been called all kinds of shit for my sexual preferences , and fucked up enough, genetic females are pretty much the only ones who always just dont mind the idea of it or think its hot.

I like to bottom for tgirls , so straight people consider me gay, gay people just get annoyed and or think I am fucked up for liking cock but not theirs (Though lots usually just seem disapointed and or just walk away rudely) And tgirls, half of them would call me everything from a "Tranny chaser" To a "Closet faggot" To just saying they are a "Fetish" To me. Now I understand their point of view on the matter, most dont want to top, some get sick at the idea.... But for fucks sake, to straight up shun people that are attracted to trans women for something they cant help , someone that one day may go to bat for yo well that shit is just fucked up with what you girls have to go through in life (And I think ,and hope its going to get a load better for you ladies soon enough )

But really, you can ignore guys that like it, you can tell em "Not interested" But to be rude to someone based on what they like sexually? Honestly, the only thing I hate about myself, is my sexuality. I think I;d rather just be gay , I'd be able to find a good lay once in a while and instead of hearing some fucking slur half the time when I say what I like, I'd get to hear "Shitty I am a bottom too" LOL. But alas I got close to being with a dude once and I turtled like it was trying to turn into a vagina lol. Not for me... Not for me.

All I am saying is, Look at guys like me however you want, its your right, but be accepting and not a cunt about it. One girl called me a closet faggot, she had pics of her at a huge LGBT parade somewhere , in her profile she preached about LGBT rights, so in my reply I asked her "So where do I fit into in all that?" She tells me I am straight and blah blah blah...... From faggot to straight in 2 seconds flat! I know not all girls are like that, but I love trans women, but I gave up one them, I havnt met one in 8 years. Just saying, guys like me, or at least me, did not pick this as our sexuality and not all of us are just fucked up dudes wanting to get off.

I am just hoping at least a couple of girls read this and the next time they are on a dating site and about to type in "Bottoms go the fuck away, ewwww" You realize that you arent showing anything but that you are shallow, selfish, and just straight up intolerant, girls like you OF ALL people should know what the fuck its like to be shunned or shamed due to something you can't help. Right now I am looking at t girls again and looking to travel, and still, almost 10 years later I see the same profiles. you dont like bottoms? SAY IT, BUT SAY IT WITH SOME FUCKING CLASS.

Who knows how any of you guys or gals will respond to this, agree, disagree, call me a whiny shit, I have noticed I like how some people respond in this forum (Seriously, 10 times more mature then my gun forum... Aint that funny?... And a bit scarey)

Take this anyway you want to: a man doesn't refer to himself as a boy (so you can start by calling yourself something other than BCBoyCOMINGAtYA!). Boys are ....well boys. Not men. And Women - GG or TG - are going to treat like you're less than a man if you see yourself as less than a man. Next, your post into the ether looking for answers about why you feel the way you do (because really that's what you're getting at here) is kinda like that sad, lonely dipshit who tosses a message in a bottle into the sea asking for someone to love. Its really just sad. Third, recognize who YOU are and behave accordingly and stop chastising others for not seeing you the way YOU THINK you should be seen. Maybe you're just young or maybe stupid or maybe it's just millennial whining. No-one really cares. Enjoy your life.