A highly personal and provocative question.......

[King Dong]

It's well known in the transvestite scene that most admirers are wannabe/frustrated TVs themselves so I wonder if the same holds true for the guys here. Does anyone here like to crossdress? Is seeing trans escorts a bridge into that world for you?

I know it's something most feel they can never admit but seeing as most of us are just a collection of anonymous usernames, ,I can't see the harm in admitting it if it's true.

I'll go first - yes, yes I do like to crossdress. It started as a sexual turn-on, a taboo, that resulted in the most powerful erections that needed to be wanked out there and then (and my god, the orgasms!). But over time, it became more and more about dressing and just looking good.

I'm active on the trans scene and try to get out once a week. The only downside is the scene is based in the gay village and I'm not gay. In other words, I'm not into men. I'm into girls and trans that look like girls. I like femininity not masculinity. But there's very few straight girls on the scene and most trans I come across are gay so all I get is women overlooking me as another gay tranny and men hitting on me - though they do occasionally do buy me a drink but whether that makes up for them trying to finger my arse is another matter.

[holzz]

it's nice how you conflate transgenderism with transvestism....I think that describes most if not all trans people who post here..lol.

but no, i'm a cis man, and never have had transvestite activities nor would seek it. I like trans women since they look, act, and are women.

[up_for_it]

Although I wouldn't describe myself as frustrated I do crossdress and I find that the TV scene was definitely a bridge for me into that scene although I'm still a novice. I suppose for me things went in reverse- I discovered my dressing interests via the kink community, bdsm and female dominance in particular. There's something naughty and taboo about 'forced fem' however compliant it actually is. So, I branched off into dressing from kink, and I have found that a lot of CDs undertook a similar journey.

I'd say that the Hung Angels forum played a major role in encouraging me to explore my latent feminine side. Checking out all the sexy women on this site made me desire to look sexy as well and to begin to experiment. Its one of the many reasons why I'm thankful I found the forum!

I can relate to you KD in regards to being attracted to femininity and not masculinity. That's the primary reason why I don't identify as bi, I'm attracted to the feminine- put an average looking guy in some lingerie and makeup to the point of passing and I'm drooling, but a beautiful guy who dresses, acts, and looks like a guy and I'm just not interested. However, I feel crossdressing for me is secondary to that attraction- for me its fun to experiment, in terms of not only my sexuality but also with fashion, makeup, and gender bending. I don't feel a strong pull to identify with another sex, its just good fun. If anything my sexual identity is centralized around the themes of dominance and submission.

I feel that CDs often fall into a weird limbo- not accepted by the main stream, and marginally accepted in other sub/countercultures such as the gay or kink communities. It would be great if crossdressing received more positive media coverage that would encourage more men (there are tons of them) to be more open about their sexual interests. After all, now that gay marriage and to a certain extent bdsm (of the 50 Shades variety) have become socially acceptable I look at crossdressing as the final frontier. Here in the States there are a few signs things might take a turn for the positive- a recent commercial showed some guy getting all dressed up for what turned out to be his daughters' tea party. A bit cartoonish, but at least it put crossdressing out there in a somewhat positive light. With all the recent emphasis on womens' rights on a global scale it would be great to get more men to consider their feminine side. We might just have a much more stable and peaceful world.


Although there are a lot of trolls out there, one of my biggest beefs is with guys who are sneaking around on their wives in order to dress and play. It would be much more healthier for them to communicate properly and avoid all the cheating and other b.s. that goes along with it.

Have you looked into Fetlife? If not, I'd recommend it since many good local events, CD and kink, or both, are now organized by Fetlifers. It might give you an alternative to the 'gay village.'

[Gillian]

Excellent post, Uppy ...

[King Dong]

Great post, UFI. Nice to hear someone else's story/journey. I also agree with you about CDs falling into a weird limbo. Over here in the UK we're very PC - especially in large organisations like where I work - yet whilst you can't make even light-hearted fun of gays or TS, there's still this old classic freely flying around:

Person A: What's your name?
Person B: Tom.
Person C: Except at the weekends when he likes to be called Jennifer.

So crossdressing is still the butt of jokes and openly mocked whereas any other sexuality, religion, race or creed is dealt with in the most po-faced of ways. Even supporters/members of the LGBT community openly display their annoyance when they of all people should be understanding and accommodating.

I agree that more positive media coverage would encourage more men (there are tons of them) to be more open about their sexual interests. Over here we have a Z-list celebrity cage fighter who was outed as a tranny and all the papers and columnists saw his as fair game yet had he come out as gay he would've been martyred. Let's rerun this - a very macho man, who make shis living using his fists, denies all sterotypes and conventions by admitting he likes to crossdress and he's lampooned for it? His ex-partner, a tacky attention-whore multi-millionaress glamour model, gets all the sympathy and sells her "I never knew he was like that, I feel violated" yet he gets nothing but ridicule? WHy isn't he heralded as a champion for the trans community? Why isn't he living proof that just because you're trans it doesn't mean you're not a "real man", that you can be macho and tough, too?

I'm surprised at you feeling improved acceptance considering the backwards attitude towards transgendered rights that's flying around right now. With states overturning pro-TG rights and - along with Dark Age mentality religious and (supposedly) family-values groups - displaying incredible ignorance and pitchforks-to-storm-the-castle rhetoric towards simple, basic human rights and such simplicities as public restrooms. When you get people outraged that a man-who-identifies-as-a-woman can enter a female toilet and into an unoccupied cubicle - where no one can see them and they can see no one - as some breach of privacy and some sixk sexual kick then you really do have to worry about the state of the country. Likewise, a woman-who-identifies-as-a-man is somehow violating "real" men by walking into a man's restroom and using the loo? Really? Isn't that the same backward thinking of "I can't share changing rooms with a gay man - what if he jumps on me in sexual lust?"

I also agree with your thoughts on married men. Cheating is cheating in my book. Funny you should mention fetlife, someone on another message baord just mentioned the exact same thing. I'm not into BDSM in the traditional sense of pain and torture but I am intrigued by some of the lighter elements such as humiliation, orgasm denial, ruined orgasms, tying up etc. Oh and like you, I find forced fem fantasies highly arousing!

[tacocorp]

I am just a guy that likes beautiful women, cross dressing is not something I'd do just because it has no appeal to me personally.

[up_for_it]

Excellent post, Uppy ...

Thanks very much Shelf!

[up_for_it]

Hi KD,

Given your interests, I would definitely recommend Fetlife. Its very accommodating and is a great place to meet and organize with like-minded people. I'd say that its done more for the kink community than any other platform, and there are lots of CDs and even a few TGs who are on there because its so accepting. If you're looking for a woman who shares your interests, other CDs, or for a local night its probably the best option available. It seems like the UK is jumping as well

To respond regarding acceptance in the U.S., we've made some major strides in the last couple of years, most notably in terms of federal legislation. In my opinion, as outrageous and offensive as the state's 'rights' challengers are, they represent a last ditch which ultimately has little real hope of resisting a sustained assault in the form of law suits and, more importantly, the loss of federal aid. These ignorant policies are damaging them in other ways as well- take the case of Louisiana, which not only has lost federal money but also support from many corporations. The movie industry, which has been an important part of the state's post-Katrina recovery, has also pulled out. Eventually voters will have to chose between religious dogma and bigotry, and financial pragmatism. Things won't change overnight, but I feel these current challenges to LGBT rights don't represent the real direction the country is going. If you look at the high school and university age generational cohorts, they are on the whole much more open to diversity and more accepting of LGBT rights than their parents and grandparents. Also, we have to keep in mind that this is an election year and LGBT issues have become a metaphor on the Right for a variety of other issues, none of which are related unless one subscribes to that twisted cosmology.

Unfortunately cultural change is the hardest one to make. Case in point the fighter who was outed- hasn't the UK had a rich tradition of crossdressing dating back to the Victorian era? Recalling my teenage years, I remember downloading videos and seeing porno mags that featured CDs from GB and its always seemed like its had a very solid scene despite the quite masculine culture. I wonder if there is a connection there?

On another note, I'd also recommend Lustcomic.com if you appreciate forced fem- its probably the best site out there for the genre.

[King Dong]

Many thanks for the info and introducing me to lustcomics, I'll check them out when I'm home.

You know what's really scary about the last-ditch attempts you speak of? There's some very intelligent and educated people spoutng pure amoeba-level drivel and bigotry. Ken Paxton, for example is a District Attorney and he's ludicrously worried that allowing MTF transsexuals into women's toilets is putting women and children at risk of crime (presumably sex-related). Does this intelligent and educated man really think that all transsexuals are salivating, rampaging sex fiends? Does he really think depraved men will go to the trouble of buying women's clothes, learning how to apply make up, waltzing around in broad daylight (risking ridicule and abuse) just to get a shot at robbing or physically/sexually assaulting someone? Really???

[gaysian71]

I have to admit that I have crossdressed when I was younger. I used to be very twinky looking. I was a skinny little Asian boi that would get all dolled up for some men. I have to say, I did have fun doing it. But now, I prefer to be with a pretty well hung girl. I don't really get any pleasure from being the girl anymore. I guess its all part of your sexual exploration stage. lol