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    The European Convention on Human Rights was drafted in 1950 by the Council of Europe, a body established in 1949 before the earliest form of what is now the EU and which is thus quite separate from it. Although the British played a leading role in drafting the text of the Convention and signed it in 1951, there was a view that the rights of UK citizens were already covered by the existing Bill of Rights (1689) and it was not until 1998 that a Human Rights Act was passed by Parliament.
    The current proposal by the Conservative Government to repeal the Act is a separate issue from membership of the EU -the subject of this thread- and relates to various objections that the party has to provisions of the Act which it claims makes it impossible to deport criminals or terrorists if they can prove they have a right to family life. One myth, that a burglar had a human right to Kentucky Fried Chicken has been debunked by the Civil Liberties organisation Liberty in this link:

    https://www.liberty-human-rights.org...act-mythbuster


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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    How fucking great is Patrick Stewart !!
    funny piece for the Remain side. nothing beats humor to sway opinion.
    Thx for posting trish


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    Quote Originally Posted by flabbybody View Post
    funny piece for the Remain side. nothing beats humor to sway opinion.
    To be pedantic, the proposal to repeal the Human Rights Act is not part of the referendum debate on the UK's membership of the EU but a separate policy proposal.


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    well here's what, if we repeal the HUman rights act, slavery is coming back!!!

    the human rights act is just about shit on our law books for centuries....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    To be pedantic, the proposal to repeal the Human Rights Act is not part of the referendum debate on the UK's membership of the EU but a separate policy proposal.
    My apology for confusing two separate issues.
    The Patrick Stewart YouTube addresses HRA repeal, not the BREXIT referendum


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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    That would be my bad.


    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flabbybody View Post
    My apology for confusing two separate issues.
    The Patrick Stewart YouTube addresses HRA repeal, not the BREXIT referendum
    I was just being pedantic, the real problem is that some EU-specific issues are often conflated or confused with non-EU ones, and the Human Rights Act is one of the most obvious. In this particular case, the real issue in the UK was Theresa May's political choice to support the Remain campaign even though she is believed to think the UK would be better off if it left the EU. She has done so, we are told, to preserve her career and any aspiration she may have to replace Cameron as leader of the Party. She thus plays the 'Human Rights' card to those Tories who want it scrapped, while remaining on Cameron's side as the assumption is that long term careers will be affected by the result of the Referendum -the losers lose, the winners win. Whether or not the Conservative Party is desperate enough to elect this woman as its leader we do not yet know. The quality of leadership in British political parties is at an all-time low as it is, and there is no sign of any improvement in the near future.


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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    Is it a coincidence that the day Trump becomes the de facto nominee I'm hearing from my Brit friends growing increasing panicky about a Leave victory?

    No doubt the scenario of chaotic financial markets and a free falling Pound that would accompany BREXIT are very real. The PM seems to be failing in communicating these risks to the public. Or they simply don't care. Are Brits in some kind of Trump-like "make England great again" trance?

    I tried to reassure my friends. We've been through worse. Besides, where can you run for cover? If Sterling denominated assets tank then US markets will follow in lock step.



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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    Quote Originally Posted by flabbybody View Post

    No doubt the scenario of chaotic financial markets and a free falling Pound that would accompany BREXIT are very real. The PM seems to be failing in communicating these risks to the public. Or they simply don't care. Are Brits in some kind of Trump-like "make England great again" trance?
    Can you spot the deliberate mistake?...


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