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    Default For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    A couple of questions from this Yank observer:
    Will PM Cameron schedule a national vote on UK leaving EU anytime soon?
    What are the everyday consequences for you guys if you quit the EU?
    Does anyone give a shit?


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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    Rumoured to be June but despite a lot of blustery talk from Cameron the crux is in the talks and they're bogged down thereby spoiling his (planned) Friday afternoon announcement of the date.



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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    Cameron's on Twitter bragging about some "deal" he inked today that will keep England in the EU. He's promising so many wonderful things for you guys it's as if the PM has taken a page from Mr Trump.


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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    Quote Originally Posted by flabbybody View Post
    A couple of questions from this Yank observer:
    Will PM Cameron schedule a national vote on UK leaving EU anytime soon?
    --June 23rd 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by flabbybody View Post
    What are the everyday consequences for you guys if you quit the EU?
    --This is a matter of fierce dispute.
    An overview of the issues is here:
    http://www.theweek.co.uk/eu-referendum

    Ten reasons to leave the EU here:
    http://www.nakedpolitics.co.uk/home/...d-leave-the-eu

    Reasons to remain here:
    http://www.proeuropa.org.uk/twelevereasons

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    Does anyone give a shit?
    --Most people know it is important but tend not to connect domestic issues with the EU, but the debate on the referendum should raise the temperature and the key will be the turn-out on the day of the referendum, given that this is being billed as the most important decision on its future that the UK will make in a generation.


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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    --June 23rd 2016
    ... given that this is being billed as the most important decision on its future that the UK will make in a generation.
    Re-use of the tag line for the Scottish independence vote?



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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    ..and now it's all about Boris instead



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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    So Boris will be the face of Vote Leave? (his hair reminds me of Trump's). Odd choice for him given the likely flight of international banking business from the City. Guess it's predictable he'd be the opposition to whichever side the PM took.
    Its like that in the States.... If Obama favors A, some politicians Favor B automatically, regardless of the merits. Facts and logic are totally irrelevant.



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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    Talk about facts and logic being irrelevant, Boris and Cameron being on opposite sides doesn't help.
    Knowing whichever way i vote helps one of those cnuts gain a victory really chaps my arse!


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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    Quote Originally Posted by flabbybody View Post
    So Boris will be the face of Vote Leave? (his hair reminds me of Trump's). Odd choice for him given the likely flight of international banking business from the City. Guess it's predictable he'd be the opposition to whichever side the PM took.
    Its like that in the States.... If Obama favors A, some politicians Favor B automatically, regardless of the merits. Facts and logic are totally irrelevant.
    The excessive publicity given to Boris Johnson has as much to do with internal Conservative Party politics as it does with the EU Referendum. This is because the Party is split with most of the rank and file being opposed to the UK's membership of the EU while the Parliamentary Party, though deeply split as well, is mostly in favour of staying in. Because they believe David Cameron has 'lost' the party, the activists want a 'brand name' to step forward to lead the Exit campaign, but this is also because the other leading Conservatives are either barely known -Priti Patel? John Whittingdale?- or are losers like Ian Duncan Smith who led the Conservative Party after the 2003 election before resigning after losing a vote of No Confidence in his own party. The Exit campaign already suffers from the division caused by the existence of those groups campaigning to leave the UK -Vote Leave, Leave.eu who seem to have merged with Grassroots Out! and the smaller Better Off Out. There is a guide to the latest issues and the players in this BBC link -
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887

    Boris Johnson reflects the peculiar situation in which he is probably better known in London and New York (where he was born) than in parts of the UK, with the exception of Liverpool and that is because of derogatory comments he made about the city which he then had to apologise for. This complicates the overall argument because London is now so different from other parts of the UK that one can understand why people like Johnson are confident of the UK being able to survive and succeed outside the EU -with no real understanding of what might be happening elsewhere in the UK, or the fact that in some parts of the country there are firms trading with the EU who are desperate not to lose their contracts but fearful that they might.

    Boris Johnson believes London is the capital of the world, so leaving the EU for him would merely underline the superior position of this city. Or so he thinks. Evan Davis, a BBC economics and business journalist produced a two-part study of London- Mind the Gap: London Versus the Rest- which is now on YouTube and which in Part 1 contains that remark by Johnson. The link is below, and is worth watching. There is also an overview of the programmes contents in the (London) Evening Standard review.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/...s-9160008.html

    Evan Davis programme on London here-



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    Default Re: For the Brits: When will BREXIT referendum happen ?

    london isn' t top jus tbecause of the City. As if the West End, the museums, the fashion industry, and the top hotels rely on the City alone, eh?



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