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    Default Re: So what do you Brits make of Trump ?

    The U.S.'s influx of Mexicans is currently negative. If we accept ten thousand Syrian refugees as we agreed to do that's a small number compared to our current population of over three-hundred-million American citizens. 10000/300000000 is 1/30000. The problem is not that our economy can't absorb them, but that our minds and hearts are too small to accept them.


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    I think we should accept the Syrian refugees, but there are a lot of people who engage in all or nothing thinking on this issue. Trump wants to have a travel ban for all Muslims which is a reprehensible policy. There are some, Trump included, who want to accept no refugees which I think is unacceptable when you have hundreds of thousands fleeing certain death.

    I personally think we should accept 10,000 but also have a vetting policy (I don't think anyone is recommending not having a vetting policy). To do so is not to treat all Muslims as terrorists, but to recognize that there are several terrorist groups operating in the theater of conflict in Syria and that unlike in traditional war the combatants do not have an incentive to identify themselves.

    Many of the people living in Syria, even if not ISIS members, were engaged in a civil war. I do think the likelihood that a small number of the 10,000 we accept will be extremists is pretty high, and that some level of concern and vigilance is justified...but everyone should do their part to alleviate a humanitarian crisis, and 10,000 is less of a burden than most other countries have taken on. I suppose I'm concerned that there have been some on the left who have said that any level of concern about how carefully we vet the refugees shows anti-Muslim bias; what is going on on the ground in Syria and has been for the last four plus years is sufficient in my view to justify caution even without probing underlying causes.


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    Default Re: So what do you Brits make of Trump ?

    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    I suppose I'm concerned that there have been some on the left who have said that any level of concern about how carefully we vet the refugees shows anti-Muslim bias; what is going on on the ground in Syria and has been for the last four plus years is sufficient in my view to justify caution even without probing underlying causes.
    I think they're going to be real careful on this anyway...because at this point, the administration knows that if they make any mistake and it winds up in the news, there will be hell to pay....


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    Classic. Just classic
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    That's from a parody account - https://twitter.com/mcdonaldjtrump/s...98884998590464

    some of the comments on there are pretty funny.



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    I like Trump's first tv advert - is this it?



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    I've just done "my bit" by signing the petition to ban this maniac from visiting the UK, now at 572,992. Just wish I could do the same with David Cameron!


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    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...g-hate-mp-says

    Debated in Parliament - well, sort of


    If Donald Trump gets elected, there'll be hell toupée.


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    Default Re: So what do you Brits make of Trump ?

    Palin Endorsement Widens Trump's Lead Among Idiots

    http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borow...d-among-idiots

    (Of course Borowitz is a satirist: but these days, when it concerns the GOP, it's difficult to distinguish reality from comedy).


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