Examining Trans Attraction

[Wendy Summers]

And well since TS women lack a given part of the anatomy.....then i won't have that conversation with them which won't lead to an argument which then means i'm happier....

Judging by your typical posts here I somehow suspect pregnancy is the least of the causes of your fights.

[Wendy Summers]

Good writing, Wendy! I have often wondered about my own trans-attraction. I don't really understand it myself, but I think that a few things probably helped develop it. I know I had fetishes at an early age, (initially only involving genetic women), I think that was a part of it. Also, my older sister had a friend that was a CD, (a person that I actually knew and liked as a friend) I think that is the one thing that kind of confirmed it. I grew up just before the Internet, TS porn was not simply a Google search away and I didn't have much access to porn magazines until I was a senior in high school, 17 or 18 years old. I kind of think porn was secondary to it.

You open up a whole other interesting discussion with people who are trans-attracted. What first made you aware you did find transsexuals attractive?

[Torris]

You open up a whole other interesting discussion with people who are trans-attracted. What first made you aware you did find transsexuals attractive?

For me, it was in a porn shop on Polk Street in San Francisco. I liked to walk that street going into book and record stores at the time (late 80's). Ethnic restaurants, camera shop, etc. Avoid the male hustlers giving me the eye in the alley ways.

I would also wander into porn shops. I remember walking by the gay porn racks, which being San Francisco, was front and center in the shop. On my way to the het side looking for my fave at the time: Heather Hunter, I caught a glimpse of Dana Douglas on a VHS box.

She looked gorgeous and reminded me of a latin girl who had broken my heart a few years earlier. They could have been doppelgangers, down to the dark hair on their arms.

I bought the tape and got off on her receiving. TS porn back then was mostly horrible: linebackers with tits, poofy wigs and shriveled dicks, but I would scan the racks to see if there were anymore titles with Dana in them.

I don't think I bought another TS porn tape until I discovered pre-boob job Vaniity. She had more content and I would buy her titles. That led to Joey Silvera's Evil Angel titles and my love of Bianca Freire and Fabiane Spears.

It kind of mushroomed from there. but after being married I got out of porn. Since my divorce, I would say my porn consumption is 2/3 TG; 1/3 het.

Pretty much to get my money anymore I require two things:

1. anal
2. no condoms

[scottnapx]

You open up a whole other interesting discussion with people who are trans-attracted. What first made you aware you did find transsexuals attractive?

For me... I am in my late 30's and first learned that trans women existed from Phil Donahue! I was instantly attracted from the earliest days of puberty.

[Tapatio]

Intersting question. I bet there is a lot of variation on this as well. Let me take a shot. After about 200 pussies I just got bored with them. Almost all of those 200 were shitty fucks as well... Women think that pussy makes them the fucking boss and they know everything.... I got 3 degrees and an IQ i can brag about but, all my life I've had women with less mental equipment and education trying to tell me shit and looking at me like a martian when I lay down some knowledge on them...

You sound charming. I'm sure the problem is in the 200 pussies.

My advice: keep buying from people who are paid to fund you attractive, smart, and a good lay.

Also- eh, whatever. You've already said it yourself.

[Kiwi_bloke]

Excellent thread - it's a question I have had an interest in for many years myself.

Being a Baby Boomer in a land that in those days was Puritanical and any kind of homosexuality illegal (which sex with a TG would have been then) I had never even heard of transgendered people until I met one. It was a person who had attended my boys-only high school, and when at school I'd thought this guy was pretty cool and may have actually been sexually attracted to him without even knowing it, but when I saw her dressed as a female the first time, I was enormously attracted to her. (Gutless old me, aged 18 didn't even ask her for a date! Idiot.)

It's a completely internal thing, and you're right on track when you're looking at the XX/XY axis - we never know where we are on it until we find out, and it requires personal honesty to overcome the cultural biases we've mostly been brought up with.

The spread of females, transgender and males I'm attracted to fall into a pattern and it's the typically evolutionary force in play where I am attracted to their face and body type - the simian in me surfacing no doubt. The fact that someone I find attractive may or may not have a penis is immaterial to me - if I'm attracted to them , what equipment they have doesn't matter. I dabbled in the gay world to see if it was a gay thing and I found I was not attracted to gay guys at all, unless I was attracted to their femininity.

I top, I bottom, I do everything there is to do.

I believe a lot of the trouble with acceptance is people being scared to accept their own feelings - the "does that make me gay?" syndrome. I can show a picture of a beautiful trans face to a guy and he will do the usual guy thing of "I'd love to tap that!" right up until I show the naked full shot and their visceral reaction is "YUK!"

[Outsidekid]

Hi,

I too have had many girlfriends over the years, and have been married for about 15. My wife simply stopped oral sex. It's always been important to me, I'm in shape, clean, a great provider, and it just stopped. Perhaps her boyfriend is now the recipient, anyway.....I've always wondered what was so bad about sucking a dick. I figured I should try it but I have no attraction to guys whatsoever. Over time, and looking at more dicks wondering how bad it could be, the attraction to a feminine girl with a dick grew. Now it's pretty much all I think about, and it's the only porn or adventure I'm really interested in. I won't cheat with women, pussy isn't worth the drama, lies, etc. But a hot trans woman might be something to try out.

That explains my attraction, no science or studies needed.

[wearboots4me]

You open up a whole other interesting discussion with people who are trans-attracted. What first made you aware you did find transsexuals attractive?

I think it was my sister's friend's cross dressing.

[Stavros]

I read the paper but it has not told me anything new.
The only thing that we learn from all of the studies that are made of sex and gender is that human beings have diverse desires.
You can spend years reading medical reports, queer studies such as the interesting, but often incoherent work of Judith Butler, read the feminists who look favourably on transgendered people or who detest them, be sick and tired of reading morally pompous/threatening scriptures from religious bodies, and conclude that none of it settles anything, that none of it matters.

Who knows why some men are attracted to women with big breasts when other men prefer women with small breasts, or why physical appearance is irrelevant and people fall in love and marry because they enjoy each others company? Why are some men attracted to Black transexuals but not Asian ones, or transexuals with big cocks -or small cocks, or blonde transexuals wearing glasses or transexuals who cough a lot?

If you take Judith Butler's concept of 'performance' as a critical marker, you may assume that men who are attracted to m2f transexuals enjoy anal and oral sex, but is this absolutely the case, because even in Butler's world of mobile meanings, if a man visits a transexual escort to masturbate without touching her, what is the meaning of the performance, how, if at all, does it define his 'sexuality'? How can anal or anal sex between a man and a m2f transexual be considered 'gay' or 'homosexual' when such terms refer to more than a sexual performance but to something with a broader meaning -or are gay men to be defined solely by the way they perform sex acts when nobody would define a heterosexual couple solely on the way they perform sex?

Perhaps the keenest paradox I find is that while Butler and many others argue that there are no fixed categories in sex and gender because they change over time and are culturally determined, this means nothing to the transexuals I have known, none of whom would accept they are a 'third sex' but all of whom would insist that they have no doubts that they are women. The very people whom Butler might argue (dis-)embody the mobility of sex and gender are firmly anchored in the certainty that they are one gender only and cannot change -which is why for them SRS is a correction, not a change.

We do what we do to enjoy sex, be it masturbating, engaging in anal, oral and the in betweens -and the weird and wonderful -I have no doubt academics will spend millions over the years conducting survey after survey after survey, to tell us what? That people rarely tell the truth about sex? That when they do it is discovered that a wide variety of people engage in a wide variety of sex acts? Curiosity means that this will always be an interesting subject, and I understand how some individuals feel guilty about their desire, become trapped in emotional and intellectual turmoil about their 'identity', but in the end it is just sex, an activity whose intention, outside procreation, is to give pleasure, not pain, to enhance the enjoyment of life.

As the sexologist Wilhelm Reich once put it, 'Fuck freely, comrades, it's healthy!'.

[boner]

You open up a whole other interesting discussion with people who are trans-attracted. What first made you aware you did find transsexuals attractive?

RuPaul's Supermodel video blew me away the first time I saw it.