Secret videoing by escorts of their clients

[krissy4u]

it's illegal. and what will they do? sell it as porn? so let their arse go to fucking jail.

Uh... no... it's not. You have a right here in the US (I think in every state - sound laws vary) to record ANYTHING that happens in the privacy of your own home... that includes sexual activity. What you then do with it may be questionable, but the act of recording it isn't illegal at all.

[skirtrustler]

If (1) it featured with some prominence an identifiable person (among other things),and (2) you wish to publish it: then you need a model release signed. Without such a release you are setting yourself up for possible legal action.

[Foreskin]

If (1) it featured with some prominence an identifiable person (among other things),and (2) you wish to publish it: then you need a model release signed. Without such a release you are setting yourself up for possible legal action.

A little too late once your published to the worlds eyes. I caught one time someone in the room hiding in the closet area with an iPad. It did get ugly, and fucking quick, iPad out the 8th floor window, TKO suckered punch, cash refund and out the door, collected the iPad on the way out, it was toast, threw it out the car window onto the freeway heading home. Watched it get run over by an 18 wheeler. Fuck their shit, no matter their fucked up motives, would've destroyed me and more importantly everyone I love & trust who love & trust me.

[TSaddicted]

This crosses my mind every time I go into an escorts residence. What I do is turn off the lights, have a good scan of the room and just make sure the room is as dim as possible so if I am being recorded, the quality will be so crap that the escort has nothing to watch.

[skirtrustler]

A little too late once your published to the worlds eyes. I caught one time someone in the room hiding in the closet area with an iPad. It did get ugly, and fucking quick, iPad out the 8th floor window, TKO suckered punch, cash refund and out the door, collected the iPad on the way out, it was toast, threw it out the car window onto the freeway heading home. Watched it get run over by an 18 wheeler. Fuck their shit ...

Now that is what you call a happy ending.

[Scott098]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daniell.../#ddf99b06ce08

[smalltownguy]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daniell.../#ddf99b06ce08

Nonconsensual Taping of Sex Partners Is a Crime .... by a law professor "Danielle Citron"

[skirtrustler]

Nonconsensual Taping of Sex Partners Is a Crime ...

I and I think most of us agree it should be, once you can establish how consent was given and recorded in the heat of the moment between two consenting adults, or was not given.

I am not a lawyer but this still looks like a legal mess. The Forbes article (link above) refers to a state law, someone earlier talked about what is legal or not in your own property, and legal concepts of privacy are still catching up with technology country by country: e.g. up-skirting and revenge porn. ...
... let alone what court cases will arise from Amazon doing interesting things with the bump, grind and pillow talk if your girl friend is named Alexa...ndra.

I am thus with Foreskin above: some form of proportional, justifiable and immediate remedy.

[holzz]

Uh... no... it's not. You have a right here in the US (I think in every state - sound laws vary) to record ANYTHING that happens in the privacy of your own home... that includes sexual activity. What you then do with it may be questionable, but the act of recording it isn't illegal at all.

no, it's not legal. there are privacy laws, and yes it depends as always on the jurisdiction. However, if this were the case, then revenge porn would not be an issue, which is being curbed in many US states and at the Fed level. To record and distribute is illegal, and in some cases even storage is illegal without intent to distribute.

[krissy4u]

no, it's not legal. there are privacy laws, and yes it depends as always on the jurisdiction. However, if this were the case, then revenge porn would not be an issue, which is being curbed in many US states and at the Fed level. To record and distribute is illegal, and in some cases even storage is illegal without intent to distribute.

Yes... it is. RECORDING ANYTHING IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN HOME IS LEGAL... PERIOD (recording sound along with video varies by state). That is why "Nanny-Cams" are able to exist. You have NO EXPECTATION of privacy if you are in someone else's house as a guest, employee, or whatever... except maybe in the restroom - you could probably make a case for that. Your expectation of privacy is waived... it isn't your property. This is why business owners, private property owners, etc. can record video or do surveillance on their property. You (as the owner) are the only one who as an expectation of privacy in your own home.

Could this view be challenged in court...? Sure... just like anything can be challenged in court. Privacy Laws govern where there is a "reasonable expectation of privacy" in most cases. These laws are largely for governing and protecting public places that should be considered private such as changing rooms, restrooms, massage rooms, locker rooms, etc.

Revenge porn is an issue, not because it simply exists as a recording, but because it is distributed without consent of the parties. The recording itself is completely legal (in simple cases). Like I said - WHAT YOU THEN DO WITH IT is the problem. Recording, in and of itself - is not a crime. That is my only point. You're twisting my words to include distribution - I never claimed that was legal at all... and in fact, I stated that in my post.