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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    After ABBA split up Benny Andersson and Agnetha Faltsog remained in Sweden but Bjorn Ulvaeus lived in London for many years, and Anni-Frid Lyngstad has lived in Switzerland for years. Nevertheless, Sweden still exists as a European state. Funny old world, 'innit?
    I wholeheartedly apologize for my American sense of humour, Stavros, I guess my point was London has a bigger population than Sweden. Sweden has a two year mandatory stretch in their Military. They had to change their laws to keep Muslim rapists and murders from flooding across their borders.
    I am sure there is a tiny spot in reality for American Schools and Medical Facilities to surpass even my imagination, but the President can't just wave his hand and make it happen, the American people would have to get up off their fat asses and basically do it themselves. Intent is not enough. Top notch private schools and spectacular medical service is available if you have the CASH, but there are a limited supply of really fine teachers and doctors. So even if education and healthcare is "free" you still get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    I wholeheartedly apologize for my American sense of humour,
    Don't blame us for that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    Don't blame us for that.
    I'd like to apologize to Stavros, the entire Denver Broncos organization, the English, the Afro-Americans, all the Americans, Steve Grooby, the Asians, the Fox News organization, anyone who may or may not be African/Asian, two of the Kardashians, some ugly trannys, Sweden, ABBA, IKEA, and I also apologize for talking up Robert Griffin III.



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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    I also apologize for talking up Robert Griffin III.
    By far the most important one. And I apologize for Johnny Manziel.

    Anyhow, it looks like Bernie has a bit more support than I thought. I still don't think he will ever have a broad enough base of support to win, but he's doing better than I thought he would.

    I also think it would be difficult to manage a socialist system in a country this large, with both state and federal jurisdictions and the problems that creates for uniform administration of social programs. But I do think it's a more fair system than the one we have here and I would like to see reforms moving in that direction. Yet for the sake of pragmatism and to avoid the worst possible outcome, I would support whoever is most electable in the general election. I don't think that's Bernie.


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    As David Axelrod has recently said ( and I paraphrase): Iowa and New Hampshire are just the bathing suit competition. People tend to get weeded out as we move on to the talent portion of the contest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    .....Anyhow, it looks like Bernie has a bit more support than I thought. I still don't think he will ever have a broad enough base of support to win.....
    Anyone with a "Hung Angels" heart and soul would like to see the country move towards a more Bernie-type philosophy, he probably could have pulled it off in 2008, but there was this young black phenom named Barack Obama who was going to change the World. In the stranger than fiction file there is this guy named Donald Trump who may do more to advance the Democratic cause than Bernie Sanders. You can't make this stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    I wholeheartedly apologize for my American sense of humour, Stavros, I guess my point was London has a bigger population than Sweden. Sweden has a two year mandatory stretch in their Military. They had to change their laws to keep Muslim rapists and murders from flooding across their borders.
    I am not sure abut your sense of humour, or your knowledge of recent events. Thus:

    1) Compulsory military conscription ended in Sweden in 2010.

    2) the myth of the beastly Muslim rapist in Sweden, Norway and Denmark might be something you find in the hysterical screeds of Pamela Gellar, but are not met with in the real world. The problem in Sweden (as Julian Assange has discovered) where the statistics of rape appear to show that between 2003 and 2010 the number of cases trebled, is that Sweden revised its definition of rape to include non-violent acts and also records rape by incident so that, for example, if a woman claims to have been raped once a week by her husband that is recorded not as a rape, but 52 incidences of rape. There is no doubt that Muslims have been found guilty of rape, just as there is no doubt that the statistical evidence in Sweden is difficult to unravel with the broader definition but appears to show no dramatic incidence of the crime. You can, if you want to, acquaint yourself with the discussions below.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

    The end of military service is discussed here:
    http://www.thelocal.se/20100701/27548


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    If old man Sanders could do the things I've listed below - I would vote for him

    Build a wall
    Deport the Illegals
    Reform our Free Trade Policy
    Lower the income Tax
    0% Corporate Tax
    Kill the Death Tax
    Take care of our Veterans
    MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    I am not sure abut your sense of humour[sic], or your knowledge of recent events.
    Guilty as charged.
    I apologize to recent events, Arabs, and the Swedish Army.
    I think that both the Arabs and Swedes were Nazi sympathizers, somewhat, but I'm not positive.


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    Build a wall
    We need fewer walls and less razor wire, not more.

    Deport the Illegals
    Illegals is not a meaningful term. But if you mean exile Cliven Bundy for illegally occupying government land, go for it.

    Reform our Free Trade Policy
    Reform in which direction? Does the free market libertarian want tariffs?

    Lower the income Tax
    And increase the tax on capital gains.

    0% Corporate Tax
    20 profitable U.S. corporations already pay zero taxes. It’s time they start paying at the rates they paid mid-last-century...you know...when we were great.

    Kill the Death Tax
    Sure, we should have a class of people who inherit wealth and never, ever have to know what it’s like to work for a dollar. Better, we should just allow the dead to take it with them: they’re the one’s who earned it.

    MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
    Again? America has always been a land a great promise. Perhaps we should just strive to live up to that promise a little more often. Greatness may follow.


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