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    7 Charts Show the Socialist Hellscape America Would Be Under Bernie Sanders:
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    Bernie has always been the man. I grew up on the Vermont-New York border. He is beloved. Vermont is one of the nicest places one can visit.


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    Once I was in Vermont and saw cases of Coca-Cola piled up right next to a soda vending machine.
    With citizens that honest, Bernie Sanders is the perfect fit.
    Just like Barney Fife is the perfect Deputy for Mayberry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    Once I was in Vermont and saw cases of Coca-Cola piled up right next to a soda vending machine.
    With citizens that honest, Bernie Sanders is the perfect fit.
    Just like Barney Fife is the perfect Deputy for Mayberry.
    So you're saying Americans aren't as good or as deserving as Scandanavians? The only thing we deserve is some shit form of second hand oligarchy?


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    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    So you're saying Americans aren't as good or as deserving as Scandanavians? The only thing we deserve is some shit form of second hand oligarchy?
    No, I'm saying if ABBA ever leaves Sweden, the entire Country will fold. The USA has it's own set of realities, and at the present time, Capitalism does this Country good. The last thing you want is for "The People" to be in charge. People are idiots.

    If you put the ten sharpest Senators in Charge of Everything, I think we'd have a much more fairer system than we have, but fair depends on what side of Everything you're on. The minute we stop being World Bullies is the minute we start losing Power. Should we start divvying up all our Nuclear Missiles to the other Countries of the World to guarantee World Peace?

    It doesn't matter that it's fucked up, it works. Better than most of the World. The fact that it is so fucked up on the edges is a testament to the resiliency of the core. You have to count your Blessings. Like the Artist who knows when to stop.
    If you want people to be truly happy, take their voice away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    It doesn't matter that it's fucked up, it works. Better than most of the World. The fact that it is so fucked up on the edges is a testament to the resiliency of the core. You have to count your Blessings. Like the Artist who knows when to stop.
    If you want people to be truly happy, take their voice away.
    But it doesn't work, it does matter that it's fucked up and there are Nations that have a healthier mix of capitalism and democracy than do we.

    Tea party republicans (to take one example) suspect that the average American's voice in politics has been diminished and they are not happy about it. You want people to be happy, give them a voice.


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    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    But it doesn't work, it does matter that it's fucked up and there are Nations that have a healthier mix of capitalism and democracy than do we.

    Tea party republicans (to take one example) suspect that the average American's voice in politics has been diminished and they are not happy about it. You want people to be happy, give them a voice.


    If you want a Utopia, assemble the top 100 Utopians together and get them funding from General Dynamics. No two Americans are going to line up and march together unless it's to a protest march.

    The Sanders and Trump people HAVE a voice, they're a year too early, that's all. Elections should last three months. Then people go back to their lives, their families, jobs, interests. If you mind your own business and you're not busy all day, you're doing it wrong.

    The countries that are doing better than us aren't doing the heavy lifting that we are. Ever since we saved the World in 1945, we're responsible for it. All Italy has to do is look pretty.


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    But we aren't talking about a utopia: the Scandinavian nations actually exist. One man's heavy lifting is that same man putting his fingers into everyone else's pies.


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    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    But we aren't talking about a utopia: the Scandinavian nations actually exist.....
    ?????
    Those are small countries, Bernie COULD actually be elected in one of those countries.....
    The USA is roughly the size of all Europe, and they're not one big happy family either.
    Vermont is funny because it is rural but Democratic. I'm not sure Socialism would fly down in Texas.
    Frankly, I don't think the US Government has any more chance of getting it's act together as the Military, DMV, Amtrak, post office, Police, IRS, Social Security, or any other big bureaucracy. Too big not to fail.
    When you talked about countries that were doing well I thought you meant Germany.


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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    No, I'm saying if ABBA ever leaves Sweden, the entire Country will fold.
    After ABBA split up Benny Andersson and Agnetha Faltsog remained in Sweden but Bjorn Ulvaeus lived in London for many years, and Anni-Frid Lyngstad has lived in Switzerland for years. Nevertheless, Sweden still exists as a European state. Funny old world, 'innit?


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