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    Default Bernie Sanders for President...

    Could he win? He's up against some big odds. Namely America's ownership class and Hillary's potential $2.5 billion war chest. Which will mostly be funded, of course, by the ownership class.
    Sanders is in the mainstream... if you look at public opinion polls. But Americans don't decide government policy.
    We live in a plutocracy... and Hillary wants to keep it that way. Bernie would like to change that.





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    Default Re: Bernie Sanders for President...

    No, Bernie won't win the nomination: not by a long shot. But the contributions he can make to the debates (if there are any) would be of considerable interest. I'd love to see the two of them have an intelligent exchange. Love to see Elizabeth Warren in the mix, but I think she means it when she says she's not running.

    And no, we don't live in a plutocracy. Power is not bought. Instead "leaders" spend zillions of dollars to market themselves and their ideologies to a stupid, selfish and uncaring electorate. The electorate still holds the power, but those of us who aren't apathetic, are divided by opposing strains of ignorance (not to mention the gerrymandered borders of our voting distrincts).


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    Default Re: Bernie Sanders for President...

    I'd vote for him.


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    Default Re: Bernie Sanders for President...

    Never heard of him. Is he good with chickens?


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    Default Re: Bernie Sanders for President...

    he seems like a decent enough fellow but as a candidate he's a buffoon. Hillary's people will be joyful if this is as tough as it gets nomination-wise.
    and he needs to do something with that hair. most serious negative for an American politician is to look unkempt.


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    Default Re: Bernie Sanders for President...

    He seems like a nice guy and very focused on income inequality. If he doesn't know he's not a realistic candidate he should…someone who can liven up the debates and maybe have a bit of grassroots support, but it can't go anywhere.



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    Default Re: Bernie Sanders for President...

    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    No, Bernie won't win the nomination: not by a long shot. But the contributions he can make to the debates (if there are any) would be of considerable interest. I'd love to see the two of them have an intelligent exchange. Love to see Elizabeth Warren in the mix, but I think she means it when she says she's not running.

    And no, we don't live in a plutocracy. Power is not bought. Instead "leaders" spend zillions of dollars to market themselves and their ideologies to a stupid, selfish and uncaring electorate. The electorate still holds the power, but those of us who aren't apathetic, are divided by opposing strains of ignorance (not to mention the gerrymandered borders of our voting distrincts).
    Is America becoming a plutocracy?




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    Default Re: Bernie Sanders for President...

    Chrystia Freeland: "A Clash Between Plutocracy and Democracy"




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    Default Re: Bernie Sanders for President...

    You might just underestimate Bernie...
    "Windfall at Bernie's: Sanders raises $1.5 million in 24 hours"


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    Default Re: Bernie Sanders for President...

    People are donating because they realize based on principle he is at a huge fundraising disadvantage since he does not accept corporate donations. It might not be sustainable if people are only donating to compensate for his inherent disadvantage in accumulating funds. Even if his impressive early fund-raising is not merely a temporary spike in enthusiasm and Bernie raises enough funds to run a national campaign, he will then face a disadvantage that's impossible to overcome in a democratic system; that he does not have a critical mass of support for his policies.



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