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    Default Re: Raise Your Hand if You Take TRUVADA! BE PROUD!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBest View Post
    wes likes to BB and bottoms, end of discussion
    Just like that it's over?



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    Default Re: Raise Your Hand if You Take TRUVADA! BE PROUD!

    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    Just like that it's over?
    he wants you to fuck him in the ass w/o a condom because Truvada said it was ok


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    Default Re: Raise Your Hand if You Take TRUVADA! BE PROUD!

    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post

    If the newest discovery in HIV prevention were a fail-proof condom that limited sensation one millionth of a percent, Wes would instead be casting doubt on the wisdom of using it.
    That day may be closer than you think...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...-10170841.html

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technol...d-feel-5517361

    It might even deliver viagra for fred41.


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    Default Re: Raise Your Hand if You Take TRUVADA! BE PROUD!

    There are strains of HIV which Truvada does not work on and will not help with. And as others have pointed out, there are other diseases out there. Don't forget about Hep C, among others. If you are in a relationship with someone who is HIV positive and Truvada works for them, then good for you. Otherwise it's only a less risky form of Russian Roulette.


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    Default Re: Raise Your Hand if You Take TRUVADA! BE PROUD!

    Quote Originally Posted by Laphroaig View Post
    That day may be closer than you think...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...-10170841.html

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technol...d-feel-5517361

    It might even deliver viagra for fred41.
    awesome sauce!...now if only it would get rid of the headache.
    (I know...picky, picky, picky)


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    Default Re: Raise Your Hand if You Take TRUVADA! BE PROUD!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBest View Post
    what is personal responsibility?
    There's no such thing as personal responsibility...reread the post. Tons of folks use up health insurance like it's a freebie.



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    Default Re: Raise Your Hand if You Take TRUVADA! BE PROUD!

    To shed some much needed light:

    1. I am a participant in a study by UCLA via the Los Angeles LGBT Clinic. I was on a long waiting list for six months. Before I was prescribed the drug, I was given the following: safe sex counseling, including access to condoms, a full panel STD test, an HIV test, a blood test to determine the health of my kidneys and liver. Two weeks later, after a clean bill of health I was given a 30 day supply of Truvada (along with phosphate supplements for bone and kidney health....which I have never taken) with more counseling and a repeat of the steps above as well as more blood for genetic mapping (most people don't know this but a small % of the population is immune to HIV due to the Bubonic Plague, which shares receptors with HIV). For the next three months I repeated the above process including the sexual health counseling and recorded (via my consent, you didn't have to record if you didn't want to) conversations about my sexual activity. Not to mention recommendations for drug and alcohol counseling based purely on my honest responses to a survey about my sexual practices and substance use. After three months of responsibly taking the drug, I am now doing the above steps every two months until a year after my initial visit.

    Truvada is effective. Gilead is not marketing for two reasons: one is the backlash from AHF and like groups who are tied to a condom only strategy and don't want a PR reaction to a return of things like the 70's fast track bath house culture which would only amplify and give credence to the opinions of the opposite end of the social spectrum (i.e. groups that hate gays and gay sex). Second, is that they do not currently have a profit structure for the drug that matches actually treating HIV pos people. The second will disappear as more and more govt, entities get behind this since they are usually the ones footing the bill. It is far cheaper to give every single gay/bi/trans person Truvada in the USA for the rest of their lives than to treat all the POZ folk already out there.

    Truvada is extremely effective and takes on the nature of a vaccine the more people use it. It is also one of the three main drugs that POZ people take, and study after study shows that POZ people who are in treatment are NOT able to spread HIV.

    Get it!


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    Default Re: Raise Your Hand if You Take TRUVADA! BE PROUD!

    Quote Originally Posted by Westheangelino View Post

    Get it!
    No I don't get it - as I don't think you answered my question. Does this mean you take it up the bum, without a condom because the drug will stop you contracting HIV - or is it to be used in conjunction with?


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    Default Re: Raise Your Hand if You Take TRUVADA! BE PROUD!

    Or are you already positive and that's why you were on the trial?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    Or are you already positive and that's why you were on the trial?

    Clearly you're ignorant of the whole subject if you ask that question. Truvada has been used to treat HIV pos people people for a decade. It keeps the virus from copying itself. The drug works in neg people by preventing the virus from copying in the first place. Why the fuck would I be in a trial for something that has been prescribed to poz people for TEN YEARS if I was poz???????!!!!! GET A CLUE PLEASE.

    And to clearly answer your question, I like the majority of sexually active people in a a high risk group do not consistently use condoms when getting fucked. Don't act like I'm some weird pariah for saying this. If I was some crazy outlier, we wouldn't have 50k+ new infections each year in the USA alone. IT IS MORE EFFECTIVE THAN CONDOMS IN THE REAL WORLD.


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