Rant about shemales

[Odelay]

What it boils down to, what everyone is telling you is... you gotta up your game. Gay bars, yup. Got a problem with that, then you're not upping your game. Meet someone on Tindr, don't immediately ask her out. Look around, maybe she does erotic chat. Pay for a couple of private sessions, she sees you got game and then maybe she's cool with going out to dinner.

Someone on another thread quoted some stats... something like 0.6% of the people of the world are transsexuals. The number of trans admirers is probably 10 times that number, if not more.

You got a lot of competition, dude. Again, up your game. And if you're fit, as your handle seems to indicate, and you have money, as you've indicated, then what the fuck... spend some of it.

[Rusty Eldora]

Porn doesn't turn people into assholes. The business attracts a certain kind of person. Assertive, personally ambitious, image conscious, self important, sharp tongued natural promoters searching for a buck and the next big dopamine fix.

Assholes.

(This is not an indictment. Possibly a thinly veiled bio.)

Well I am surprised that the TS Porn industry consists of far nicer people than I expected. Actually above average compared to the typical banker, businessman, trophy wife, lawyer, or politician.

[Rusty Eldora]

Life is transactional. Once in a while we have a friend with benefits that loves sex with you without any effort or cost by you. Consider yourself lucky.

I have had conventional girlfriends, dated in my earlier life, been married, had exes, have kids by different moms, and I see escorts. Well I must say the cost for each of these come out very similar if measured in effort + cost. The exes cost the most, but that is at the end. Wifes are not cheap and need a lot of maintenance. A rental for an hour or night can be the most fun.

Because of their lack of opportunity in today's economy, a lot of tgirls are forced into sexwork to make ends meet. Well dating needs to pay as they do not have other sources. Being a client does not mean you cannot be more if the two of you hit it off. I have a GG and TG best friend that we do a lot of things together with that I met as a client.

There are things that are unique with tgirls, I think seeing providers is a good way to learn the ways of tgirls. I have generally found that the sessions cost but dinner and hanging out are more likely off the clock.

In your worries, remember they need to make a living themselves, then what you contribute makes sense.

[itsnotme]

you all seem to miss the point that there is no point chasing after a girl if all you like about her is shes trans

[Deimos]

you all seem to miss the point that there is no point chasing after a girl if all you like about her is shes trans

Actually no... that's exactly what everyone is trying to tell YOU lol

[giovanni_hotel]

And people wonder why many guys think all tgirls are escorts.

The OP is going about it the right way, he's got to seek out transwomen because the reality is it's unlikely he's going to casually meet someone at a local bar or club.
Too bad the girls he's meeting are working an angle.

One screen the OP should do is find out what a girl does for a living; if she has a 9 to 5 that pays her bills, he's less likely to run into a situation where she drops a hourly rate on him when the topic of sex comes up.

If a tgirl is kind of vague about her employment, assume she generates a bulk of her income from tricking.

As a guy into tgirls the numbers just aren't in your favor.

If GGs had a rare or unusual attribute than men found irresistible, like a pussy that made your dick permanently bigger from fucking her, GGs would charge most guys to have sex with them too.

It all depends how much work the OP is willing to put in for the chance of finding a TS interested in a relationship.

They are out there, but if you come at it from the adult entertainment industry side, girls are going to have a hand in your wallet as soon as your dick gets hard.

[youngfit93]

good points being raised.

My problem isn't that they work in porn (if they do), its a profession like anything else but if the very first time we speak she is putting her hand in my wallet i'm suspicious. i mean her first move is to my wallet not to understand me im sorry but i cannot accept someone saying you have to pay for her time, why should i? (if im only taking her out to dinner, if i was asking for sex different story)

Yes relationships are transactions but not just financially, they're various other "transactions" i.e time, emotional transactions etc etc but if the first thing she does is reach for my wallet then how do i know she is with me because i Am me, or with me because of my wallet. This is the problem.

Someone raises the point of ts in the workforce forcing them to become escort and thats a fair point, i didnt factor that in.

someone also said that guys like TS because of what they are not who they are, but that argument is invalid because i can apply the same thing to women guys like women because of their big ass or big boobs or whatever the case however the women do allow men to take them out to dinner and allow the guy to get to know each other WITHOUT the guy having to pay for the time. So if you want a guy to like you for you not what you are you're going to have to let the guys get to know you WITHOUT forcing money because from the get go the guy is going to be questioning whether its a string along and imagine if i paid the time to take a TS girl out and she was a real bitch im going to fuming, ive just spent money on dinner and her time and turned out to be a bitch, see my point?

Someone said up my game i think you're right this may sound ridiculous but im not fan of gay bars, infact not really a fan of the gay scene at all i cant handle over the top flamboyant gay guys they really do my head in, i dont consider myself gay for being attracted to TS women, but if thats where they are i guess i just have to deal with that, and infact i just got invited to a post mardi gras party this weekend where its going to be a majority of ts girls , so time to pull out my best outfit, whiten the teeth, trim the beard and get my game on

[Jamie French]

The only thing that actually works is NOT looking for someone. If you're actively looking, you haven't earned your way out of loneliness. That shit has to be EARNED if you want it done the right way. You can't ask for it, you can't pay for it, you can't negotiate your way in.
You have to stop. Take care of your self first and formost, get involved with things that have nothing to do with finding dates, getting laid or meeting a potential mate. Follow through with a passion, sharpen your own skill sets, work on your personal success. When you've finally become a worthy candidate through simply be awesome at living, the potential mates will follow and you wont even have to try.

Take it from me, I can't stay single for more than a month without some hot pron star getting all up in my business. I don't seek. I mind my own business and kick ass at whatever I'm doing. It draws a crowd. Now strangers are chuckin' awards at my head and all I did was mind my own freakin' business to the nth degree.

[Jamie French]

Until you're a tranny, you'll never fuckin' get it. The parallels you put up between GGs and trans don't hold water.

If they did, this thread wouldn't exist.

good points being raised.

My problem isn't that they work in porn (if they do), its a profession like anything else but if the very first time we speak she is putting her hand in my wallet i'm suspicious. i mean her first move is to my wallet not to understand me im sorry but i cannot accept someone saying you have to pay for her time, why should i? (if im only taking her out to dinner, if i was asking for sex different story)

Yes relationships are transactions but not just financially, they're various other "transactions" i.e time, emotional transactions etc etc but if the first thing she does is reach for my wallet then how do i know she is with me because i Am me, or with me because of my wallet. This is the problem.

Someone raises the point of ts in the workforce forcing them to become escort and thats a fair point, i didnt factor that in.

someone also said that guys like TS because of what they are not who they are, but that argument is invalid because i can apply the same thing to women guys like women because of their big ass or big boobs or whatever the case however the women do allow men to take them out to dinner and allow the guy to get to know each other WITHOUT the guy having to pay for the time. So if you want a guy to like you for you not what you are you're going to have to let the guys get to know you WITHOUT forcing money because from the get go the guy is going to be questioning whether its a string along and imagine if i paid the time to take a TS girl out and she was a real bitch im going to fuming, ive just spent money on dinner and her time and turned out to be a bitch, see my point?

Someone said up my game i think you're right this may sound ridiculous but im not fan of gay bars, infact not really a fan of the gay scene at all i cant handle over the top flamboyant gay guys they really do my head in, i dont consider myself gay for being attracted to TS women, but if thats where they are i guess i just have to deal with that, and infact i just got invited to a post mardi gras party this weekend where its going to be a majority of ts girls , so time to pull out my best outfit, whiten the teeth, trim the beard and get my game on

[youngfit93]

yeah i am doing that to be fair, im working im studying, im doing my thing i'm working hard towards getting a job in a hedge fund (tough gig), i got my shit together im heading in the right direction, but theres no one here to take the journey with me haha