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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    So what do you guys think about the limited airstrikes that are taking place right now? No American troops killed, not a huge drain on the budget (I think), and maybe keeping Isis from advancing to other cities in convoys and taking over.
    I think they help...but we're all just fooling ourselves if we think , in this day and age, that airstrikes alone will defeat a poison like this. This enemy is mobile...it recruits from an endless trough and operates under no rules what-so-ever.

    Good intelligence will help (and so will surgical drone strikes)...but some type of 'boots on the ground' is almost inevitable.


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    Carter is also responsible for polio, the black plague, measles, autism and dreamon's current tooth ache.
    I'm not the one that linked the wars to Carter's policies.

    Christopher Hitchens did. And we all know what a huge conservative he was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamon View Post
    Christopher Hitchens did. And we all know what a huge conservative he was.
    Hitchens was a bright guy and for most of his life aligned with the left. Towards the end of his life he was much more militaristic, so it's not all that easy to assign a political affiliation to him. Also, he isn't an authority whose wisdom should be considered infallible. He opposed Desert Storm but supported the 2003 invasion. When asked what he thought about his previous support of Desert Storm he said and I paraphrase, "I haven't repudiated those views but I no longer hold to them." However he wants to explain it, I can't understand opposition to the former and strenuous support of the latter war.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred41 View Post
    I think they help...but we're all just fooling ourselves if we think , in this day and age, that airstrikes alone will defeat a poison like this. This enemy is mobile...it recruits from an endless trough and operates under no rules what-so-ever.

    Good intelligence will help (and so will surgical drone strikes)...but some type of 'boots on the ground' is almost inevitable.
    Yup.



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    Hitchens is the go to guy for any right winger who wants to use an argument by a liberal against liberals. But as broncofan points out, his opinions don't exactly line up with liberal thought down the line.

    It's interesting that dreamon adopts the opinion of one man about Jimmy Carter's culpability for wars that were 30 years past his presidency, as his own. I kinda doubt dreamon would be comfortable adopting all of Hitchens' dogma. So I'm guessing he sort of cherry picked this one.


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