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    Thumbs down When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    I'm not too picky when it comes to watching T-Girls bottom or top. I enjoy both types of scenes as they are very hot to me. Dominant women are very sexy and seeing women get fucked is just as hot.

    However, I do have a problem with directors still filming cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes. This is 2015 and directors should know this by now. Reverse cowgirl is the worst position to shoot in a scene with a T-Girl topping a guy. The camera is focused on him, NOT the actual girl who I want to see. I don't want to see a frontal view of his naked body while blocking my view to see her. I certainly don't want to see his dick bouncing around.

    I watch TS porn for the ladies. I want to see them, and these two positions do the exact opposite by focusing on the WRONG person.


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    Default Re: When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    hardcore scenes have to be a minimum of 22 minutes in length. each position can't be more than 5 minutes each. the intro can't be longer than 2-3 minutes....you do the math - besides doggie and missionary, what else is there?


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    Default Re: When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    Hey Christian... I work on network television sitcoms and of course there is a time formula. Is 22 minutes the industry standard length that applies to a DVD production? Also, is there a time constraint to each position shot (or minimum)? Personally, I love to watch a beautiful TS girl walk around with wood for a few minutes to fill the same sex positions as most shoots.


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    Default Re: When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    Quote Originally Posted by christianxxx View Post
    hardcore scenes have to be a minimum of 22 minutes in length. each position can't be more than 5 minutes each. the intro can't be longer than 2-3 minutes....you do the math - besides doggie and missionary, what else is there?
    Wow, where's the spontaneity lol


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    Default Re: When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    its a business my friends and not personal sex...obviously there are no hard and fast rules, but for most internet companies & DVD companies as well, if the scene is less than 22 minutes it won't be put up. Remember companies use each scene for 4-5 scene DVD's and/or VOD titles which also have to hit minimum lengths. And don't forget broadcast/licensing companies which also won't take a movie that's too short or too long.

    I remember that a director for Naughty America in 2007 shot an 8 minute intro for a scene and they refused to put it up until it was edited down to 3 minutes and he went APESHIT and ultimately left the company.

    If you have to reach 22 minutes in length and you use 2-3 minutes on the intro and then let's say another 3-4 minutes on the foreplay/blowjob that leaves you with 4-5 positions for most scenes (cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggie, missionary, and spoon are the industry standard 5). Usually the maximum length most companies want a scene is 30 minutes. so you need 15-23 minutes of hardcore sex divided by 4-5 positions and you have 3-5 minutes per position. Any shorter and you don't have enough footage of the position to satisfy customers who only like that specific position, any longer and its too much of that position which means the other positions will be too short.

    Now the great performers both female & male usually put their own twist on the normal 5 positions and give you up & over doggie, standing cowgirl, side saddle cowgirl, etc. This is why Rocco, Manuel, and Nacho get so much critical acclaim as male performers because they are innovative with the positions AND seem to know exactly which positions make the girl getting fucked look best. As far as TS & female performers I think very little if any of them think about a scene in these terms which is probably a good thing. They rely on the male performer or director to know the time and they just worry about looking good and being in the right position.

    Me personally? I always wanted to be known as solid rather than exceptional one way or the other....so I try to make every scene the same. I used to constantly check my watch to make sure the timing was just right lol.


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    Default Re: When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    Good explanation, happy holidays.


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    Default Re: When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    Quote Originally Posted by christianxxx View Post
    its a business my friends and not personal sex...obviously there are no hard and fast rules, but for most internet companies & DVD companies as well, if the scene is less than 22 minutes it won't be put up. Remember companies use each scene for 4-5 scene DVD's and/or VOD titles which also have to hit minimum lengths. And don't forget broadcast/licensing companies which also won't take a movie that's too short or too long.

    I remember that a director for Naughty America in 2007 shot an 8 minute intro for a scene and they refused to put it up until it was edited down to 3 minutes and he went APESHIT and ultimately left the company.

    If you have to reach 22 minutes in length and you use 2-3 minutes on the intro and then let's say another 3-4 minutes on the foreplay/blowjob that leaves you with 4-5 positions for most scenes (cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggie, missionary, and spoon are the industry standard 5). Usually the maximum length most companies want a scene is 30 minutes. so you need 15-23 minutes of hardcore sex divided by 4-5 positions and you have 3-5 minutes per position. Any shorter and you don't have enough footage of the position to satisfy customers who only like that specific position, any longer and its too much of that position which means the other positions will be too short.

    Now the great performers both female & male usually put their own twist on the normal 5 positions and give you up & over doggie, standing cowgirl, side saddle cowgirl, etc. This is why Rocco, Manuel, and Nacho get so much critical acclaim as male performers because they are innovative with the positions AND seem to know exactly which positions make the girl getting fucked look best. As far as TS & female performers I think very little if any of them think about a scene in these terms which is probably a good thing. They rely on the male performer or director to know the time and they just worry about looking good and being in the right position.

    Me personally? I always wanted to be known as solid rather than exceptional one way or the other....so I try to make every scene the same. I used to constantly check my watch to make sure the timing was just right lol.
    Where are you getting this data from? I have many scenes from various companies (straight and TS) that are less than 22 minutes long. Last year I made a thread complaining about Grooby sites releasing a lot of scenes last than 20 minutes.

    Naughty America has changed its standards for intros as many of their scenes' intros are at least 4 or 5 minutes. Brazzers's intros are now 8 to 10 minutes and maybe longer with 20 to 25 minutes of sex.

    Quote Originally Posted by christianxxx View Post
    hardcore scenes have to be a minimum of 22 minutes in length. each position can't be more than 5 minutes each. the intro can't be longer than 2-3 minutes....you do the math - besides doggie and missionary, what else is there?
    Are these 22 minutes and 5 minutes each rules based on your standards? There are many scenes with positions lasting more than 5 minutes especially when the director wants to focus on a particular body part such as Jada Steven's ass during a good and long cowgirl.

    There are many options instead of showing the wrong person's dick in the viewers face. No offense Christian, I do not want porn to see your dick bounce and ass in front of the camera. Piledriver (if the guy is able and willing), The Frisk, The standing T, and The T-Bone are just a few positions to perform instead of showing off the guy.

    People in the industry always say TS porn is targeted towards straight men so why shot positions featuring the guy and not the girl? It contradicts the purpose of the scene.



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    Default Re: When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    and of course I am completely wrong and the super fan with the porn addiction is right...why do I continue to fall for his dumb posts? jesus #facepalms


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    Default Re: When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    Quote Originally Posted by christianxxx View Post
    and of course I am completely wrong and the super fan with the porn addiction is right...why do I continue to fall for his dumb posts? jesus #facepalms
    I never said you were wrong. Please get an education and learn how to read. I simply asked you where did you get this data. All I said after that was based on my experiences as a customer at multiple sites that no longer follow the standards that you mention. It's very funny you that complain about my response yet you were the one who asked me about what other positions can be shot. FYI no one buys TS porn to look at close up shots of you. We're here to see Tgirls, not dudes.

    Times have changed ChristianXXX. Look at TODAY'S Naughty America, and not 2007's Naughty America. The intros are longer than what they once were. Hell Brazzers's intros can be 10 minutes long these days. Brazzers's massage themed videos are 40 minutes or longer. I swear today's Brazzers scenes can put me to sleep because their intros are too long.

    You're the man in Devil's Films TS films. You should know most of Devil's Films scenes are 25 to 30 minutes long. Granted their intros are pretty short most of the time.

    Last year a lot of Grooby's scenes were last than 20 minutes, two minutes shorter than what you said the norm is. Hell one of Celeste's hardcore scenes from Shemale.XXX is only 13 or 14 minutes long.


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    Default Re: When will directors learn not to shoot cowgirl and reverse cowgirl in top scenes?

    Hey "fan"guy. how about buying a sex positions book, a production set up and starting your own company?


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