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    And make sure you do it after the "window period" which in case of HIV is 3 months effectively...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Westheangelino View Post
    ^ Um....I'm talking about taking a drug to make sure you WON'T get infected. Also, just because you are taking truvada doesn't mean you have to bareback. It's useful for bareback fans like me, but also for people who worry to damn much to begin with.
    Ok sorry, I thought you mean take it and there's no need for Condoms or something. Seriously though why do bareback with escorts who probably have a 50/50 chance of having the disease?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ts RedVeX View Post
    And make sure you do it after the "window period" which in case of HIV is 3 months effectively...
    Thanks for the info



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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    Truvada is an PrEP which the CDC ranks as being UP TO 92% effective if used consistently and as directed. It does not protect other STDs. The effectiveness of condoms against HIV transmission are ranked somewhere between 90% to 95% . As with anything else, the probability of HIV infection rises with number of exposures.
    Thanks for the info. I'm not entirely sure what the graph is supposed to achieve as it doesn't compare the likelihood of infection with the usage of the drug and the likelihood of infection through using condoms solely.

    Do you by any chance know of the estimates of HIV contraction of both insertive and receptive penetration as well as with oral penetration though?



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    Quote Originally Posted by bobtrucker1 View Post
    Thanks for the info. I'm not entirely sure what the graph is supposed to achieve as it doesn't compare the likelihood of infection with the usage of the drug and the likelihood of infection through using condoms solely.

    Do you by any chance know of the estimates of HIV contraction of both insertive and receptive penetration as well as with oral penetration though?
    First off, I AM NOT A DOCTOR. I'm just extrapolating from what one can find from just a couple of CDC sources. According to the CDC ( http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/risk.html ) the probability of HIV infection through anal receptive intercourse via one encounter with an HIV infected partner is 138/10000 (e.g. 0.0138 which is a 1.38% chance of contraction through one unprotected anal receptive exposure). The same source gives you a 0.11% chance of contraction via one unprotected anal insertive exposure. Remember “exposure” means intercourse with an HIV infected partner.

    The chart pictures four curves:

    The top two curves are for people using PrEP alone. The topmost curve illustrates the probability that someone on PrEP alone will acquire an HIV-infection via N independent anal receptive exposures. The curve below that is for anal insertive exposures. The number N of exposures is read off the horizontal axis and the corresponding probability if found by going up to the appropriate curve and over to the vertical axis. So according to the graph, if someone uses PrEP alone, and has 2500 anal receptive exposures the probability that they have become infected is about 0.2 (i.e. 20% chance of transmission). 2500 is a lot a exposures. I originally made the chart imaging two life partners, one infected and one not. In such a situation 500 exposures per year seems reasonable. Over a three decades that would be 15000 exposures. Since (as stated in my last post) the effectiveness of condoms against HIV is comparable to the effectiveness of PrEP the graphs for people using condoms alone would look very much like the two for PrEP alone.

    The bottom two curves are for people using PrEP + Condoms. These curves are so low you can barely see them...so I made a separate picture for them, and still you can barely make out the bottom most curve.

    The chart illustrates two lessons: 1) Keep your number of exposures low to none;i.e. avoid risky behaviors 2) barring that use protection and get yourself regularly checked (remember HIV isn't the only STD).

    (If you're just experimenting and have no idea whether you're going to make visiting escorts a habit tell your doctor. Truvada is not generally recommended for intermittent use.


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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    Truvada is an PrEP which the CDC ranks as being UP TO 92% effective if used consistently and as directed. It does not protect other STDs. The effectiveness of condoms against HIV transmission are ranked somewhere between 90% to 95% . As with anything else, the probability of HIV infection rises with number of exposures.
    Condoms are actually close to 100% effective at stopping the spread of HIV when used correctly; well above that 90-95% figure. HIV can't penetrate latex. So if the condom is intact the virus can't make the jump in any area that the condom covers. The risk is that the condom could break. Or, less likely, that HIV could penetrate some uncovered area that is exposed to body fluid--perhaps if there is a break in the skin somewhere.



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    So roughly, with 63M people living in the UK, out of which about 100k have HIV, the probability of getting it during a single unprotected session of receptive anal intercourse with a random person here is 1/630*0.0138 so 0.0022% (1 in 45k LOL) sounds like u need to be quite lucky to get infected overall. I am just curious how they came up with that 0.0138 figure...

    Going further, if I work 7days a week, have on average 3 customers per day and they will all fuck me bareback, I will need 42 years till I am very likely to be have gotten infected... I will have naturally ceased to be by then


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobtrucker1 View Post
    Hi. Going to be visiting an agency girl soon (a thai one), and wondering about HIV specifically. Are escorts who work for agencies often checked for infection? Because I am aware that (for some strange reason) in asian cultures such as in Thailand people are either unaware or maybe just don't care about practicing safe sex, and are obviously notorious for this.

    Would you advise getting checked out at a clinic even just after one encounter or is the risk low enough to just leave it unless symptoms are eventually found?

    Sorry if this post sounds stupid, don't really know how it works.

    Thanks, I'd really appreciate any feedback


    If you're worried about HIV and other STDs then WEAR A CONDOM. It's not rocket science and most escorts will insist on it anyway.
    If you're still worried then you should probably just give up on the idea and have a wank instead...


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    I have lived and visited Thailand for years , and I have yet to meet a girl ( TS or otherwise)to not hold safety as their first priority.I have heard horror stories , but never encountered them .
    In my visits to escorts , I have completely given up anal ( although I still fantasise about it) and I never ask the escort to come .I just get into oral and stroking and that does me fine.
    In the old days , the escorts I know were always super safe .



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    Prostitutes are NOT vectors for HIV and never have been


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