so glad isn't me...anymore

[my my my!]

I consider myself a trans admirer and friend, and with this come alot of friendships and some relationships with transsexual females.

What I found to be self destructive and downright negative in many local girls was the almost complete lack of any regard towards men, and each other.

More important to them is:
Escorting, selling their ass, instead of working a minimum wage or higher job.
I talked about this with a couple of girls, and their response was , I can get 3 clients in one day and make more than what I would on minimum wage.

they want their louboutins , chanel, D and G and high end things and $200 dresses over hard work and learning how to save and get an education.

I would see these same girls, partying at the local gay/trans clubs, wednesday night through sunday night, paying up to $300 a night for shots for all their "friends" and then struggling to make ends meet to pay the rent.

And of course, that means selling their ass again. risking the disease, anti-trans violence, thefts and beatings as well as arrest.

All that for Louboutins?

[marriedgrl_chasrstayaway]

I wholly respect your opinion and understand it comes from your personal experiences and observations. I'm sad that you've grouped ALL us men into the same basket. I wish you nothing but happiness.

Well they arent really doing much to dispute those ideas. Girls everywhere year in and year out have the same complaint. Are we going to throw the blame back and forth or come up with solutions. I would say the girls for the most part have done what they can and have just resigned themselves to their "fate". What about the men who claim to "love" them so? Surely a type woman who is supposedly loved and desired so much, as evidenced by the large number of "admirers" on a site such as this, should have those said admirers PUBLICLY outraged and speaking vehemently about the indignaties she faces? Those are the actions that I understand TRUE love and admiration inspires. Am i wrong, sir?

[famemonster]

I am glad you found a place you feel comfortable. Good luck and hope to see your posts more often.

[giovanni_hotel]

Congratulations and glad to know you're taking steps on your right path.

I agree wholeheartedly that many TS aren't cut out for the biz and forcing themselves to survive in it erodes them psychologically/emotionally.

It's the same thing in the CIS porn game too.

[marriedgrl_chasrstayaway]

I consider myself a trans admirer and friend, and with this come alot of friendships and some relationships with transsexual females.

What I found to be self destructive and downright negative in many local girls was the almost complete lack of any regard towards men, and each other.

More important to them is:
Escorting, selling their ass, instead of working a minimum wage or higher job.
I talked about this with a couple of girls, and their response was , I can get 3 clients in one day and make more than what I would on minimum wage.

they want their louboutins , chanel, D and G and high end things and $200 dresses over hard work and learning how to save and get an education.

I would see these same girls, partying at the local gay/trans clubs, wednesday night through sunday night, paying up to $300 a night for shots for all their "friends" and then struggling to make ends meet to pay the rent.

And of course, that means selling their ass again. risking the disease, anti-trans violence, thefts and beatings as well as arrest.

All that for Louboutins?

it definitely goes both ways... The materialism is a way of coping and compensating. Ive engaged in the same behavior before. There is a lot of pressure put on trans girls(by men... and even cis women in society) to OUT DO a cis woman in ways that a cis woman can't even realistically achieve. So you have the expensive clothes and shoes... but who ultimately fuels that fire?

[bluesoul]

There is a lot of pressure put on trans girls(by men... and even cis women in society) to OUT DO a cis woman in ways that a cis woman can't even realistically achieve.

how do they do this? and how can someone who wasn't born female hope to out do a person that was? are you sure this isn't your own perception?

[my my my!]

it definitely goes both ways... The materialism is a way of coping and compensating. Ive engaged in the same behavior before. There is a lot of pressure put on trans girls(by men... and even cis women in society) to OUT DO a cis woman in ways that a cis woman can't even realistically achieve. So you have the expensive clothes and shoes... but who ultimately fuels that fire?

I think it's pressure put on by trans girls ON EACH OTHER and by their admiration for everything "glamourous and fierce" .

all my cis female friends could care less about louboutins and getting the most expensive shit. They look good with $50 heels , and $60 dresses. and so do trans girls. But oh lord, god forbid they have to wear $50 heels..

It's just the trans girls that wanna keep up with the RICH cis women that are in tabloids, "omg i must have thoseee heels".

they're out of touch with reality in that case. They think like is a non stop party, and the most expensive glitzy stuff, and when guys refuse to buy them the expensive stuff, they throw them to the curb as if they're not worthy. They do indeed choose Louboutins over love and respect.

so , yes it goes both ways

[marriedgrl_chasrstayaway]

I can not agree. I recently had a dispute at school with the most rachet, ghetto , raggediest of cis females. Dnt even remember how it started, but as soon as it was known i was trans she said " Bitch how you supposed to be a muthafuckin transgenduh? You supposed to look better than a "REAL" wuhman!" So yes there is this silly expectation from society that transsexual women much be drop dead gorgeous where as cis women may look like "who done it and why". You see it with men who ry and pursue the most beautiful trans women(only for sex of course) but the cis woman they parade around is homely... and im being generos with that word. Also
Not to be rude but I feel that men are over stepping their boundaries by trying to question or doubt what im telling you is MY LIVED EXPERIENCE as a trans woman. Just sit and listen. I cant tell u what it is to be a cis man, so how can you question my experiences. And like it or not most of you are the perpetrators so how doubly offensive and insensitive of you to try and dismiss and silence an experience shared by me and many other trans women. Experience trumps opinion.

[bluesoul]

I can not agree. I recently had a dispute at school with the most rachet, ghetto , raggediest of cis females. Dnt even remember how it started, but as soon as it was known i was trans she said " Bitch how you supposed to be a muthafuckin transgenduh? You supposed to look better than a "REAL" wuhman!" So yes there is this silly expectation from society that transsexual women much be drop dead gorgeous where as cis women may look like "who done it and why".

so why are you taking the word of "the most rachet, ghetto, raggediest of cis females" and claiming she speaks for all of society? that's like if i told you i talked to the most hercules looking tranny and was asking me how much i bench press so all trannies much be the same.

i think the scenario you presented above is FAKE because you had to undermine that person's look. why did you have to stress she was "the most rachet, ghetto, raggediest of cis females?"

also you said men are overstepping their boundaries by questioning your experiences. i don't see the point of stating something if you don't expect a response.

the rest of what you said is really up to individual opinion: so when you say "men pursue the most beautiful trans women(only for sex of course) but the cis woman they parade around is homely" that's because beautiful women don't need to look like they're selling sex to be found attractive. believe it or not, most men adore natural, non-made-up women with a great personality. and sometimes, the personality trumps the looks

cheerio!

[Jericho]

I can not agree. I recently had a dispute at school with the most rachet, ghetto , raggediest of cis females. Dnt even remember how it started, but as soon as it was known i was trans she said " Bitch how you supposed to be a muthafuckin transgenduh? You supposed to look better than a "REAL" wuhman!" So yes there is this silly expectation from society that transsexual women much be drop dead gorgeous where as cis women may look like "who done it and why". You see it with men who ry and pursue the most beautiful trans women(only for sex of course) but the cis woman they parade around is homely... and im being generos with that word. Also
Not to be rude but I feel that men are over stepping their boundaries by trying to question or doubt what im telling you is MY LIVED EXPERIENCE as a trans woman. Just sit and listen. I cant tell u what it is to be a cis man, so how can you question my experiences. And like it or not most of you are the perpetrators so how doubly offensive and insensitive of you to try and dismiss and silence an experience shared by me and many other trans women. Experience trumps opinion.

Yeah...It's us that are being insensitive and offensive!