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08-13-2014 #31
Re: The Galaxy Has Guardians
No...you're hilariously wrong there bub.
I find it funny how when someone gives a negative review on a movie ( especially a Marvel movie), and people who are led to believe it is good, bash the "Thumbs Down" reviewer.
Look. This movie was pretty. It was pretty cannon. It was good as far as a superhero movie goes. ( Way better than Fantastic 4, and Hulk ).
But as a film, it "meets quota".
If you want to believe it's "original", please refer to the posted image below.
If you want to believe it's warm and has heart, fine, but regardless if it's a Marvel Comicbook movie, or a Spielberg film, it should not appeal to the lowest common denominator. For example, the cancer mother. You know how I felt when I watched that part? I felt forced to care. They shoved CANCER in my face not 2 minutes into the movie and tell me, "Look! The main protagonist's mother is dying of cancer. You must feel remorse now. Are you feeling for this person? Not so much? Ok. Now look. She just died and the kid actor is trying to portray "distraught". Now you're feeling something for him right? No? Ok, well how about he gets abducted right after running out of the hospital, never to see his family, friends, and home planet ever again......Nothing?"
I do not want to be forced to care for characters. There are a great many ways to portray something similar to entice feelings of sympathy and empathy. The way this film does it makes it feel like a poorly acted rape scene. Very awkward. It was very hand-fisted.
If you know me, you KNOW I am a avid fangirl of Marvel and many other nerdy things. This does not mean I will lower my expectations or give Marvel a pass.
For example...My example is "A New Hope". WHY? Because GotG is basically the same movie but modern. But lets please compare.
-Both films are space operas.
-Both have an eclectic cast of characters.
-Both have these unruly characters group together for a greater good.
-Both have very similar aspects in regards to character profiles.
-Both have a seemingly unbeatable villain.
-Both include political flavor.
-Both have a furry "lovable" character.
-Both have character pairs who are buds and work together, and one can understand the gibberish language of the other.
The difference between Guardians of the Galaxy and A New Hope...
A New Hope is a solid film. It stands by itself with out any help from any other movie. It has the audience captivated by the character arcs and story, and makes you want to root for them. It does it in a way to where you aren't Michael Bay'd into "feeling" for the characters. Star Wars is such a solid film that they could afford to start on PART 4.
I felt for Starlord as much as I felt for Shia Le'bouf's character in Transformers.
Also, lets talk about the ratings and reviews. Out of let's say 2 billion people who watch this film........
Rotten Tomatoes: 92%
- 217 reviews ( Fresh - 199 / Rotten - 18 )
- 152,484 Audience reviews ( 96% )
IMDB: 8.7 of 10
- 108,619 raters
- 442 Reviews ( 122 "critic" reviews. Just schmucks with a column )
You realize that out of "let's say 2 billion people" that this group of "reviewers" are going to give a well thought out film educated opinion?
We don't live in a climate where "mass opinion" can be trusted 100% of the time. Because we live in a world where the majority of people are more concerned with the comforts pop culture gives them, than investing in the kind of critical thinking, that may take them out of their comfort zone.
Starlord/Rocket is basically Han Solo without any of the pathos.
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08-13-2014 #32
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Re: The Galaxy Has Guardians
Terrible review. Stick to porn.
Originally Posted by Jamie French
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08-14-2014 #33
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08-14-2014 #34
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08-14-2014 #35
Re: The Galaxy Has Guardians
I'm 32, I think most marvel/comic book films are at best ok, most are overrated, especially avengers, but I absolutely loved guardians of the galaxy.
Transformers 4 starts ok and ends ok but as usual has 2 hours of s**t in between.
Avatar was rubbish, just a cgi rip off of about 10 movies, dances with wolves is far superior!
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08-14-2014 #36
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"You're a fan boy. Of course your opinion doesn't count."
Is the implication here that fan boys blindly adore any comic book franchise movie regardless of quality?
Because no. Hell no. There isn't even an argument to entertain here. Batman Forever? Batman and Robin? Both Fantastic Four movies? The Spirit? Daredevil? Hulk? Both Ghost Rider movies? Spider-Man 3? League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? X-Men: The Last Stand? Superman 3? Superman 4? Superman Returns?
That's off the top of my head. Are multiple people on this forum aware these movies exist?
TL;DR:
There is a film out there that is wildly popular, and I have a contrarian viewpoint to offer. Disagree with my viewpoint? Well that's because you are one of the mindless sheep that constitute the general public and cannot possibly fathom the elite taste for the finer things in life that I, and only I alone, am intelligent enough to appreciate. You unintelligent buffoons! Dance, puppets! Dance!
Is Guardians of the Galaxy more or less mindless entertainment? Absolutely. The thing with that though is....
....like....fuckingggg...no shit?
There is a central character that is a bipedal, talking, cybernetically-enhanced god damned raccoon. There is another central character that is a living tree with a 4 word vocabulary. If you were walking into this expecting a modern take of Othello, then I would certainly agree with you that there may be a lack of intelligence to be observed in this forum. It's your identifying where that lack of intelligence originates from that might be a bit askew.
Guardians of the Galaxy was fucking awesome.
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08-14-2014 #37
Re: The Galaxy Has Guardians
You know why Jamie and I are very disappointed in this movie?
Not because we consider ourselves "Film Connoisseurs", but because Kevin Feige and James Gunn (mostly Gunn), for about two years in interviews (which I have seen most of them), extensively talked huge game about deep character development and an original story with heavy heartfelt moments. They talked like this movie had weight comparable to Star Wars: A New Hope, Lord of the Ring, and Game of Thrones.
Gunn and Feige said a lot of the right things to get people who care about film making, interested in this movie.
Jamie and I are not trying to bash people who simply want to enjoy a popcorn movie. We are just giving a well-rounded review. Notice I did say the movie was good looking with VFX and enjoyable for the most part. As far as a superhero movie goes, it was better than most, but not as good as the Iron Man Trilogy or Capt. 2.
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08-15-2014 #38
Re: The Galaxy Has Guardians
Strange that a director would talk up his own movie. You'd almost think making movies is a business or something.
That aside, what heartfelt character moments do you feel Star Wars: A New Hope had that GotG doesn't? I'm trying to think of a single moment that I'd compare to say, Rocket's drunken outburst (which was absolutely magnificent voice acting on Bradley Cooper's part) and for the life of me, I can't do it.
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08-15-2014 #39
Re: The Galaxy Has Guardians
You are not understanding.
Yes, I know a director is going to talk up his movie. No shit Sherlock.
But with him saying things that makes FILM MAKERS interested, further than normal, and NOT delivering, upsets me. I am not claiming to be a certified "film maker", but I am currently making films (not my porn), and understand where film makers who are interested in only making a solid films, would be mislead by his pitch.
If you think that Rocket's drunken outburst was on par with anything given to us from Star Wars: A New Hope, you clearly have no understanding of what "heartfelt moments" are, and you blatantly show how your critical thinking skills are not at a level great enough to read between the lines in a film.
Bradly Cooper's voice acting skills are not that great. I would have rather have heard H. Jon Benjamin behind the microphone, or even Mark Hamill. Hell, even John DiMaggio.
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08-15-2014 #40
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My understanding of "heartfelt moments" is that they are moments...that are heartfelt. Go ahead and school me with your unique insight as to where my misconception is.
Soooooooo.....did you have an answer to the question, or is "I'm smarter than you." *jerk off motion* your actual response?
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