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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    Depends on her reasons. Is it racist for a porn actress to refuse parts in IR porn films because she finds the genre to be racist?
    I wanted to chime in and expand on what's been said about the IR genre as a whole. Whenever IR is mentioned it's mostly depicted as black male on white female. Almost every thumbnail category for porn sites show this. Absolutely no problem there, most videos are actually black male on white female. Again, nothing wrong although I would like to see a better mix.

    It's when you watch a lot of these black on white videos, the focus of interracial sex is always put across in a very racist way. Rather than portraying 2 humans of different race having sex, they usually stigmatize a race, therefore producing a novelty fetish to create the idea that the act of interracial is taboo to a certain extent. In most cases, fabricating this idea that sex with a black person is frowned upon so it's naughty is in and of itself racist.

    I watched a glory hole scene with a black male, while next to him for no reason is a flaccid white guy with a small dick. Why is that when there are just as many hung white male talent? Common varieties of IR are cuckolding or incestual voyeurism of family members viewing their relatives in IR sex. The common theme throughout portrays white female talent talking about not being satisfied by white guys, consequently trivialising the only reasons another race would want to get with a black guy is because of their dick size.

    Shane Diesel is a primary cause of this who gets white females to call him a n*gger on shoots, filling the racist fantasy of white women wanting black males for sex, but not for anything else. Like jamesedwards said, the fact a black guy is fucking a white woman doesn't change the social stance overall, especially when the aforementioned fantasy revolves around the white female being a fucking racist.

    To me, the interracial genre is dominated by extremely racist stroylines that perpetuate the idea of separation of races. For arguments sake as a white dude, if I was a porn star and was offered to do a scene with a black girl I would have zero problems. However, if the scene was going to be me dominating her because of her race where you hear either of us referring to her as a "useless n*gger cum bucket" like I hear in reverse roles, that shit makes me feel physically sick and should have no place in the industry.


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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    Nicely done, richyyy.


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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    Let's call a spade a spade here:

    Porn geared toward white heterosexual men capitalizes on the idea of domination as a vessel (one of many) for arousal.
    Women must show a loss of privilege or that effect is nullified.

    IR porn as a fetish exemplifies this effect in one direction. A white woman fucking a black man who dominates her with a massive penis is her surrendering her white privilege in lieu of "animalistic" sexual urges. Likewise a white man fucking a black woman is him dominating the "bestial" as slave owners/colonial masters used to do when they felt entitled to the bodies of black people. This is the formula that guarantees IR popularity, because porn is an industry, and IR has specific requirements to meet for customer satisfaction.

    US-made porn identifies it's biggest market as straight white men and the most popular IR pornographies are the ones that monopolize the "domination" factor. That is how the industry is.

    Is it racist? Most definitely, as an art form it depicts black people so devoid of privilege and sexual integrity that engaging in intercourse with them will result in the loss of one's own sexual privilege. This specific fetish harnesses viewer arousal through racial-based domination.

    If a white woman does not want to have sex with a black man, that is her choice. Her motivation might be racially based, but her choice is her choice, end of. We cannot intercept her control of her body no matter how we judge her reasoning.

    Likewise, an adult entertainer that doesn't want to do a black man but will insert a twelve inch dildo all the way in, is probably racist. But her choice is still her choice.

    Agencies telling their clients not to fuck black men in order to prolong their careers are making financial decisions within a racist framework.


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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by TopKat View Post
    what i meant was that if eveyone reproduced with everyone else at some point all children will look the same. and if they look the same then they can hate each other for the people that they are not hate each other based on outwards appearance.....
    isn't technically what you're saying that we should be all one race?

    not sure whether you know the history of australia, but they tried to do with the aboriginal people by putting them in settlement camps in an attempt to breed them as "half-castes" where they'd work as laborers and servants to white families, regarded as a "good" situation for them in life- then eventually married to white people in an attempt to create one race: a white race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richyyy View Post
    I wanted to chime in and expand on what's been said about the IR genre as a whole. Whenever IR is mentioned it's mostly depicted as black male on white female. Almost every thumbnail category for porn sites show this. Absolutely no problem there, most videos are actually black male on white female. Again, nothing wrong although I would like to see a better mix.
    unfortunately, this is more a reflection of our society than it is on porn. remember, porn is only supposed to make us jerk off. some people are actually turned on by the scenarios you just illustrated above like cuckold porn.

    in fact, one of my friends only buys this kind of porn. if such a person did not exist, no company would make this type of porn. after all, who would buy it?

    btw: has anyone noticed: if you look under the "asian" category of pornography, you're likely to find asian women with non asian men (interracial) yet it's never considered as such as it simply exploits the female. same goes for "latin".

    so this tells us most of our society (american) has a certain definition of what interracial means



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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by MichealMichealsMichealson View Post
    Likewise, an adult entertainer that doesn't want to do a black man but will insert a twelve inch dildo all the way in, is probably racist. But her choice is still her choice.
    there was a girl who did (perhaps still does) porn that said she didn't do IR because her boyfriend didn't let her. her boyfriend was a black man.

    i think one thing we've all not recognized here is that we're looking at porn to guide our moral compass. if we consider that porn is acting, then who a girl choses to performs with can be regarded as just that, a person she wants to act a scene with and isn't a reflection of whom she'd love.

    btw: your example choose to infer that the twelve inch dildo may be representative of a black penis. is it impossible that a white or latin male can have a similarly sized penis? aren't john holmes and jeff stryker considered the biggest cocks in the industry?



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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by MichealMichealsMichealson View Post
    Let's call a spade a spade here:

    Porn geared toward white heterosexual men capitalizes on the idea of domination as a vessel (one of many) for arousal.
    Women must show a loss of privilege or that effect is nullified.

    IR porn as a fetish exemplifies this effect in one direction. A white woman fucking a black man who dominates her with a massive penis is her surrendering her white privilege in lieu of "animalistic" sexual urges. Likewise a white man fucking a black woman is him dominating the "bestial" as slave owners/colonial masters used to do when they felt entitled to the bodies of black people. This is the formula that guarantees IR popularity, because porn is an industry, and IR has specific requirements to meet for customer satisfaction.

    US-made porn identifies it's biggest market as straight white men and the most popular IR pornographies are the ones that monopolize the "domination" factor. That is how the industry is.

    Is it racist? Most definitely, as an art form it depicts black people so devoid of privilege and sexual integrity that engaging in intercourse with them will result in the loss of one's own sexual privilege. This specific fetish harnesses viewer arousal through racial-based domination.

    If a white woman does not want to have sex with a black man, that is her choice. Her motivation might be racially based, but her choice is her choice, end of. We cannot intercept her control of her body no matter how we judge her reasoning.

    Likewise, an adult entertainer that doesn't want to do a black man but will insert a twelve inch dildo all the way in, is probably racist. But her choice is still her choice.

    Agencies telling their clients not to fuck black men in order to prolong their careers are making financial decisions within a racist framework.
    Couldnt have stated it better myself



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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    @bluesoul: i am not suggesting forced breeding mate. i was trying to make a joke that if everyone organically IR dated there would be a point were everyone would be the same and it would solve the problem.

    i know this is not likely, i know this is very hypothetical and it was not meant to be taken seriously...



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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    i am a white man and i like some black women. i dont think it is because i want to be a slave owner. i think it is because i like women and some women are black so by simple probability i should be attracted to some black women. no? also i dont think there were very many(none) Polish slave owners in the south.



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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by TopKat View Post
    @bluesoul: i am not suggesting forced breeding mate. i was trying to make a joke that if everyone organically IR dated there would be a point were everyone would be the same and it would solve the problem..
    i see what you're saying now. although you forgot to include erasing religions as well, coz if you remember that world war 2 diversion, religion had a big role besides the usual "we're not equal because of religion" thing

    just a thought

    Quote Originally Posted by TopKat View Post
    also i dont think there were very many(none) Polish slave owners in the south.
    what does that mean?


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    Default Re: Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

    someone said that white man on black woman porn is a slave master/slave scenario. and i am Polish. we were late arrivals to america. after the slave days. so i do not connect to that scenario at all..... i am just attracted to some black women.

    and racism is present if the a company tells its escorts to avoid black men.



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