Fuck the Police State

[TempestTS]

Law & Disorder / Civilization & Discontents

Grandma repeatedly protested drones at base, now faces a year in jail

Protests reportedly peaceful; judge won't let her "thumb her nose at the law once again."

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...ear-in-prison/

[the_unnatural]

Jury nullification is really our only hope, the way I see it, since the entire system seems to be out of order. They're executing no-knock warrants for buying potting soil. Taking DNA samples at checkpoints.

http://news.yahoo.com/kansas-couple-...182449463.html

http://rt.com/usa/police-dna-swabs-r...heckpoint-405/

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[TempestTS]

Jury nullification is really our only hope, the way I see it, since the entire system seems to be out of order. They're executing no-knock warrants for buying potting soil. Taking DNA samples at checkpoints.

http://news.yahoo.com/kansas-couple-...182449463.html

http://rt.com/usa/police-dna-swabs-r...heckpoint-405/

Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces: Radley Balko: 9781610392112: Amazon.com: Books

No knock warrants are rising to ridiculous levels and the times when they find nothing there is no accountability for either judge or the investigating officer that requested the warrant. Property is being destroyed, people are being hurt, pets killed and its all in wholesale rejection of our constitutional rights.

Whats even scarier is the "Sneak and peek" warrant where cops use otherwise criminal means to enter a residence just so they can look around while the owner isnt there. No notice is given, no paperwork is ever provided, property can be seized just to see if it pertains to an investigation all with the express purpose of concealing the fact that they were ever there. If nothing that can be easily prosecuted is found they simply never speak about it again and somebody has stuff that just "vanished" - money, electronics, valuables... ect just vanish into a police state black hole.

[TempestTS]

Yes. I see the dream now. Three hundred million people in a nation as large as a continent will stage a bloodless coup disbanding the three branches of government. It will be Iceland writ large. Together we will rewrite our Constitution using tweets and facebook. Looking over the deep and ponderous comments one typically finds on twitter and facebook, I gotta wonder what that final document will look like.
(BTW:Iceland maintains a Coast Guard and few special forces, but it has no standing military. Unfortunately we have the largest standing military in the world. I wonder if we can count on it remaining on the sidelines while through tweets and whistles we reconstruct our legal framework?)

Really? I don't see that at all. I think this is a clear case of projection.
Here's an immutable fact: The majority of Americans at one time disfavored Obamacare and favored the Affordable Care Act. Careful how you interpret polls. The only polls that count are the ones that determine governmental offices.

To the point of our two party system: Those parties are not immutable. When Johnson signed the Civil Rights act, the Democratic Party lost a majority of its southern membership to the Republican Party. Both underwent gigantic ideological shifts as a result. The Tea Baggers are doing an effective job today of changing the face of the GOP from within. (Cantor recently lost his seat in a primary to a Tea Bagger) That's what the Greens should've done rather than running Ralph Nader; i.e. take over the party structure from within.

In the end, it's your vote politicans pander for. It your vote that grants them office. It's your vote they're spending millions of dollars to try to win. Yes, they would love it if the electorate were smaller and more demographically predictable. Too many of us don't recognize that we're holding the very thing everybody is going apeshit trying to acquire: votes.

Your right a nonviolent revolution clearly isnt possible -Silly me... Ghandi, Civil rights, Martin Luther King, the Woman's rights movement... clearly never happened its all a myth.

[TempestTS]

and then this ...

[the_unnatural]

The way I remember it, the slide began with the MADD push, which brought us "safety checkpoints." Then, with the war on drugs, they started with the search of vehicles without consent by claiming to "smell marijuana" (I think stats should be kept to see how many searches based on smell found nothing.). Throw in 9-11 and you have a giant police-state snowball running out of control.

Citizens' rights to film police do offer some hope. Even that has been a struggle. It wasn't till this year that Illinois' anti-eavesdropping laws were overturned. Under that law it was even a crime to record the sound of a crowd at a football game.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5003308.html

[trish]

Yeah, stop those fascist mothers against drunk driving! They're fucking ruining the country for the sake of a few useless children. The world's overpopulated anyway.

[Prospero]

A shit storm of paranoia is turning so many Americans into lunatics.

[the_unnatural]

That's what you got out of that, Trish?

[trish]

That's what you got out of that, Trish?

No. There's also the GIANT police state snowball running OUT OF CONTROL along with the International Jewish Conspiracy and the fascist AFT blockade of the Bundy Ranch.

I can't count how many times I got stopped for driving while black. But let a little old grandma get her white ass thrown in jail (for repeatedly trespassing on a military base when there was the equivalent of a court order telling her not to do it so) and suddenly we're living in a police state, a fucking police state, no...a giant fucking police state snowballing out of control. Right. I totally agree. Last time I voting for a Muslim.