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    Default Re: TRUVADA: Why are we ALL not taking this???!!!!

    Truvada costs like 30€ / 40$ per day. For the Rest of your life...

    That is a bit beyond "basic human right"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prospero View Post
    So you gonna trust those you fuck bareback to tell YOU the truth, Westheangelino? Trust that they are negative or that they are taking this wonder drug. You are an irresponsible person. And how often do you get tested before injecting girls or guys with your quite possibley infected sperm? End of story.
    Um, the whole point is that you DON'T have to trust anyone else. If you're taking it, then you will be protected from contracting HIV. Kind of the whole point. You and others keep bashing me or anyone who would want to take this drug as an irresponsible person....how so? How is wanting to take a drug that has been proven to halt the spread of a deadly disease irresponsible??



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    Quote Originally Posted by Westheangelino View Post
    Um, the whole point is that you DON'T have to trust anyone else. If you're taking it, then you will be protected from contracting HIV. Kind of the whole point. You and others keep bashing me or anyone who would want to take this drug as an irresponsible person....how so? How is wanting to take a drug that has been proven to halt the spread of a deadly disease irresponsible??
    taking arvs to prevent contraction of hiv is responsible but having sex without protection is not

    you should seek therapy


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    Default Re: TRUVADA: Why are we ALL not taking this???!!!!

    Unfortunately, things like vaccines and pharmaceutical drugs to cure diseases are a thing of the past. These days its all about maintenance drugs. They are far more profitable than vaccines or cures. Trillions more. So its either play safe or become be rich so you can afford the drugs. I'm not even close to being poor, but at 40 bucks a day for protection, forget about it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Teydyn View Post
    Truvada costs like 30€ / 40$ per day. For the Rest of your life...

    That is a bit beyond "basic human right"
    That's the major problem. The cost is too simply too high at this point. It could be worth distributing for free to certain at risk groups, but then, how reliably would they take the drug anyway?

    It seems, at this point, that the drug would have the most use for people in specific situations, for example, bare back performers in gay, TS, or higher risk hetero porn, or perhaps affluent individuals for whom bare back sex is that much of a priority. It doesn't seem worth the cost for most people when effective cheaper alternatives are available.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wiltthestilt View Post
    That's the major problem. The cost is too simply too high at this point. It could be worth distributing for free to certain at risk groups, but then, how reliably would they take the drug anyway?

    It seems, at this point, that the drug would have the most use for people in specific situations, for example, bare back performers in gay, TS, or higher risk hetero porn, or perhaps affluent individuals for whom bare back sex is that much of a priority. It doesn't seem worth the cost for most people when effective cheaper alternatives are available.
    arvs are powerful drugs i doubt someone would be able to maintain a successful career in sex work considering the side affects



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    Default Re: TRUVADA: Why are we ALL not taking this???!!!!

    http://www.truvadapreprems.com/#. Their very web site says to combine Truvada and safer sex practices. Because Truvada and hepatitis have some nasty interactions.

    Not to mention the side effects and cost.


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    Default Re: TRUVADA: Why are we ALL not taking this???!!!!

    Have any of you read anything? Have you googled anything? Clearly not. First of all, the cost is NOT prohibitive. Most insurers are covering this as it is far less expensive for them to give someone truvada to someone at risk than wait for them to become positive and give them even more drugs.

    Also, please remember that any drug (think of any ad on TV) has to list all the various side effects, no matter how often they occur or how severe they are. Everyone reacts to drugs differently. I don't even take aspirin because I have bad reactions to it. BUT nearly everything I have read says that the effects are exceedingly mild and well worth it if you are in a high risk group. Every major study also shows that people on truvada do not start barebacking like crazy.


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    Default Re: TRUVADA: Why are we ALL not taking this???!!!!

    Tell me, why are you riding this pony so hard.
    Do you have stock?


    Quote Originally Posted by Westheangelino View Post
    Have any of you read anything? Have you googled anything?
    Never mind years at med school, just get on google!
    Stay informed by all means, but don't rely on the internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Westheangelino View Post
    Most insurers are covering this as it is far less expensive for them to give someone truvada to someone at risk than wait for them to become positive and give them even more drugs.
    No. Most insurers AREN'T covering this.
    That's just something you'd like. But, the reality of it is, it's not happening now, and it's never going to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Westheangelino View Post
    I don't even take aspirin because I have bad reactions to it. BUT nearly everything I have read says that the effects are exceedingly mild and well worth it if you are in a high risk group.
    That is a big arsed "But Nearly Everything".
    You ready to bet your life on it?

    I'm not against you here.
    If you want to fuck yourself into the grave, god bless you and good luck with that.
    I'm just thinking that if any of our future sexual partners cross paths, I hope I'm the one who got there first!




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