Did Sienna Grace pull the biggest scam in TS porn history?

[Mr. Yates]

You don't get to explain morals to me, I am Ashlyn Motha Fucking Creamher and I'll say what ever the fuck I want!

.....who? Those declarations of self identity tend to be bit more effective when your name means something to somebody that isn't yourself.


If Sienna did as OP is suggesting she may have done (and I'm certainly not jumping to that conclusion), then she's a bit of a scumbag. Hopefully there is a valid reason the surgery is taking so long and she makes the effort to communicate that to her generous fans in a timely manner.

However, if she did in fact take advantage of said fans, they get no sympathy from me. As someone said way earlier in the thread, that's what white knights get.

[GroobySteven]

I had my fundraisers and raised the total. My Brazilian Butt Lift surgery is scheduled for August 5th. I have used the donated money for what I said I would use it for, AND those who contributed, were graciously rewarded.

Jamie has a surgeon picked out. She has already made some payments to the surgeon from the fundraisers. She has a date for her surgery already set in stone. As soon as the rest of the money comes in from this current fundraiser, she will take that to her surgeon. Her current fundraiser is going to be over in 54 hours, so she already plans to use what she can from her website check each month to pay off the rest, which is about $1,300~. She has also rewarded her contributors graciously.

I do not know why Sienna has not gotten her boobjob yet, even though she met goal about a year ago. I don't really speak to her, though I do occasionally see her posts on Facebook. I can't really speculate why she lied about her fundraiser or why she didn't get the boobjob as she said she would. I do not know her really, and I have yet to meet her in person.

But what I can tell you is, yes, what she did, really does look bad, and really makes any other girl look bad, even though Jamie and myself are/were successful in achieving our goals.

What separates Jamie and myself from Sienna, is that we rewarded graciously for contributions AND we are using that money for what we intended it for, DIRECTLY after we hit goal.

So...my friends...in a couple of short months you will see that Jamie WILL have a great set of knockers, and I WILL have a tinier waist with a bigger plump bubble butt and wider hips.

I can't speak for any other persons other than Jamie and myself. And what I say on behalf of Jamie and myself, is that we do NOT scam anyone, we do NOT fuck around, and we do NOT bring disservice unto our fans, and ourselves. When we say we will do something, WE DO IT.

Great post Miss Cassini.

[Johnny.Blaze]

I had my fundraisers and raised the total. My Brazilian Butt Lift surgery is scheduled for August 5th. I have used the donated money for what I said I would use it for, AND those who contributed, were graciously rewarded.

Jamie has a surgeon picked out. She has already made some payments to the surgeon from the fundraisers. She has a date for her surgery already set in stone. As soon as the rest of the money comes in from this current fundraiser, she will take that to her surgeon. Her current fundraiser is going to be over in 54 hours, so she already plans to use what she can from her website check each month to pay off the rest, which is about $1,300~. She has also rewarded her contributors graciously.

I do not know why Sienna has not gotten her boobjob yet, even though she met goal about a year ago. I don't really speak to her, though I do occasionally see her posts on Facebook. I can't really speculate why she lied about her fundraiser or why she didn't get the boobjob as she said she would. I do not know her really, and I have yet to meet her in person.

But what I can tell you is, yes, what she did, really does look bad, and really makes any other girl look bad, even though Jamie and myself are/were successful in achieving our goals.

What separates Jamie and myself from Sienna, is that we rewarded graciously for contributions AND we are using that money for what we intended it for, DIRECTLY after we hit goal.

So...my friends...in a couple of short months you will see that Jamie WILL have a great set of knockers, and I WILL have a tinier waist with a bigger plump bubble butt and wider hips.

I can't speak for any other persons other than Jamie and myself. And what I say on behalf of Jamie and myself, is that we do NOT scam anyone, we do NOT fuck around, and we do NOT bring disservice unto our fans, and ourselves. When we say we will do something, WE DO IT.

I'm with Steven when I say fabulous post Eva !!!

[natina]

its a SEC violation and it just not big enough for them to take notice.

http://www.sec.gov/complaint/tipscomplaint.shtml

http://www.sec.gov/News/Article/Deta.../1356125787012


Common violations that may lead to SEC investigations include:

• Misrepresentation or omission of important information about securities
• Manipulating the market prices of securities
• Stealing customers' funds or securities
• Violating broker-dealers' responsibility to treat customers fairly
• Insider trading (violating a trust relationship by trading on material, non-public information about a security)
• Selling unregistered securities.

Whether the Commission decides to bring a case in federal court or within the SEC before an administrative law judge may depend upon various factors. Often, when the misconduct warrants it, the Commission will bring both proceedings.

• Civil action: The Commission files a complaint with a U.S. District Court and asks the court for a sanction or remedy. Often the Commission asks for a court order, called an injunction, that prohibits any further acts or practices that violate the law or Commission rules. An injunction can also require audits, accounting for frauds, or special supervisory arrangements. In addition, the SEC can seek civil monetary penalties, or the return of illegal profits (called disgorgement). The court may also bar or suspend an individual from serving as a corporate officer or director. A person who violates the court's order may be found in contempt and be subject to additional fines or imprisonment.
• Administrative action: The Commission can seek a variety of sanctions through the administrative proceeding process. Administrative proceedings differ from civil court actions in that they are heard by an administrative law judge (ALJ), who is independent of the Commission. The administrative law judge presides over a hearing and considers the evidence presented by the Division staff, as well as any evidence submitted by the subject of the proceeding. Following the hearing the ALJ issues an initial decision that includes findings of fact and legal conclusions. The initial decision also contains a recommended sanction. Both the Division staff and the defendant may appeal all or any portion of the initial decision to the Commission. The Commission may affirm the decision of the ALJ, reverse the decision, or remand it for additional hearings. Administrative sanctions include cease and desist orders, suspension or revocation of broker-dealer and investment advisor registrations, censures, bars from association with the securities industry, civil monetary penalties, and disgorgement

[TatianaSummer]

LOL
guys lie too when they say it's their first time.

Ok now seriously, I feel sorry for the guys that donated money for nothing, I guess you got rip off. So she was selling her phone number? fuc$ing great idea!
who wants to buy my number for $100?

[Karabella]

If this was a scam, it's bad for the people who contributed, and for girls (like me) who are also considering crowd funding. I developed symmastia from a botched breast augmentation 2 years ago, and the cost to fix it is a lot more than I can afford. If girls in this industry are scamming people, it spoils potential donator's desire to help out in the future.




XOXO
-K

[EvaCassini]

I agree Karabella. I do not know what to call what Sienna did, as she has yet to divulge anything regarding her fundraiser and what she did with the money. Though without her honesty about the subject, all we really can call it or look at it as, is a scam, a ploy, a lie, and the like.

Honestly Karabella, I would still encourage you to start a fundraiser as long as you stand by what you say you are going to do with the campaign funds, and reward your contributors well. I too have a bit of symmastia that has developed over time, but it is a huge and serious complicative surgery that many surgeons are too weary to go near and it is also quite expensive. So I know the struggle. I would like to start a fundraiser for it, but I won't. At least not this year. I want to make sure I find the exact right surgeon for me who WILL fix it, without the least amount of risk.

As long as you are honest, and as long as you have a strong supportive base, you should do fine. It'll be difficult though, as I had to do two campaigns in a row to achieve the funds for my brazilian butt lift, because of what Sienna did. There were many who were very cautious to contribute because they thought it was a scam. It doesn't help matters that "who" placed this seed of deceit was Sienna, a tgirl, who is also in the industry ("Close ties" or something like it, even though her and I never met at all and had no other affiliations, other than the fact we are both tgirls and in porn.) But as long as you prove to them that you are for real, honest, and are gracious, then people with help. Best of luck to you sweetie! XOXOXO

[BJ4TS]

Only if the donors felt they were scammed because they expected something in return. All she did was ask.

[GroobySteven]

coming soon

[Rusty Eldora]

I had my fundraisers and raised the total. My Brazilian Butt Lift surgery is scheduled for August 5th. I have used the donated money for what I said I would use it for, AND those who contributed, were graciously rewarded.

I can't speak for any other persons other than Jamie and myself. And what I say on behalf of Jamie and myself, is that we do NOT scam anyone, we do NOT fuck around, and we do NOT bring disservice unto our fans, and ourselves. When we say we will do something, WE DO IT.

I didn't donate much to yours but it was because you and I had interacted online and at the award events. I thought you deserved support so I donated. I generally don't unless I know something of them.

You are doing what you indicated you would do, so I will be one of the first to donate the next time for yours.