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03-03-2014 #61
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Re: Roots and consequences of Ukraine's violence
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03-03-2014 #64
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Originally Dino. I am in D.C now.
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03-03-2014 #65
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Hey Prospero, I'm having problems posting my Russian Propaganda videos. You have any idea why the videos don't post? I have no idea if it's here or YouTube.
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03-03-2014 #66
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You got it America-Man! Way to go......mobilize the army, the navy, the air force and go on over to Europe and show them stupid Russians who is boss. But just a few things to consider while on the boat over:
1) Russia isn't Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Iraq, Panama, Afghanistan, or Libya. You might be surprised to learn Russia is a modern nation with an enormous well-trained military, a nuclear stockpile, and an almost 1000 year old history of warfare and especially all-out war. This means you will engage with a nation rife with nationalist fervour with the means and history to back it up. No America-Man you will not be fighting a small, poor, militarily weak foe - and with all due respect look how you've fared against those countries?
2) Where will you get the money to wage a war on the scale of the one you will need to wage against Russia? Ask China? Sell more near worthless bonds?
3) Who of your European allies have the enormous balls needed to take on Russia in their own backyard? Germany won't lift a finger. Nor France or Britain. Perhaps the Ukrainians, Poles, and Georgians? Maybe you'll offer some cash incentives to the Spanish, Portuguese, Greeks, and Italians?
4) Russia isn't Korea, Iraq, blah blah blah
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03-03-2014 #67
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Re: Roots and consequences of Ukraine's violence
This is a good point, but you may hit his ego in the wrong spot. I personally think we are tough enough that we can fight Russia to a near stalemate and destroy the planet for a good xxx thousand years (what's the half life of uranium?).
Actually, I think we should fight them during the summer months. We invade in May, and then we adjourn in September when it starts to get colder. It will take a while but eventually we can accomplish nothing.
But we'll look tougher than hell in the process. It'll teach Putin not to ride around on horseback without his shirt on. In fact, that's what we should aim for when we negotiate a truce after ten years of fighting. By that time, Putin will look even worse without a shirt, so it will be worth it.
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03-03-2014 #68
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Re: Roots and consequences of Ukraine's violence
I don't understand your points:
1. China doesn't have a proposal to invade Taiwan, it has always believed in 're-unification' but that is not the same thing -cf Hong Kong.
2. North Korea's missile capability, if you follow the news, has tended to begin with a launch closely followed by a plop into the sea, and I don't know the North has ever intended to 'nuke' the south, but that the nuclear weapons are there to intimidate the US and Japan.
3. When Argentina did invade the Falkland Islands a military campaign followed and Argentina lost -for all her bluster, Ms Kirchner has no real plan to try that again.
Diplomacy might look like weakness to you, but I think you will find that most of the military campaigns you seem to yearn for, have ended in diplomatic agreements. If the diplomacy works, it removes the need for military action, and that, at the moment is what we should aim for, and it is not a liberal or conservative position, but a rational one.
I am not Al Sharpton, I don't like him, and I am not much of a reverend either.
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03-03-2014 #69
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don't get me wrong i believe if nukes were involved, the US has the capability to destroy the earth, much less Russia but that's exactly what gives Russia the edge right now - knowing that conventional war is off the table and that no-one wants a nuclear confrontation. Certainly Europe countries cannot engage in a conventional war in its backyard without considerable long-term damage. And while some European governments MAY put up some big talk, none of their respective populations will back it. No way will the US go it alone against Russia, if only from a logistics perspective. Putin and his people have surely considered all of it and know that the only recourse for 'the West' is to impose economic sanctions. And clearly they believe that risk is manageable.
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