Thank The Theives.

[bluesoul]

Understand the frustration but your honest members get screwed here. Not sure how but your content will still get stolen.

when you stream video, the video is temporarily downloaded to your temp files.

[Jamie French]

My business was stream only for years and I did just fine with a lot less tubsite uploads.

You join a country club you don't get to take the golf course with you when you're finished with you're game. Same as my site, you enter, you enjoy the wares, you leave. End of story. If I loose sales? Well, you forget you who you are talking to and how little I care about making all the money. I make it on my terms or not at all. It's my way or the highway.

Signed, The Fuckin' Boss.

[RallyCola]

streaming content will not make your videos less likely to be stolen as the people pirating are more than capable of taking your content in ogv or fly format and uploading it, ala what is done with trans500. the average paying subscriber is NOT uploading your stuff on tube sites.

you can do what you want with your content, but please don't think you can stop or slow piracy because you make it "harder" for paying members to dl and store your content.

[RallyCola]

My business was stream only for years and I did just fine with a lot less tubsite uploads.

you were a lot less popular then. you can't think that your popularity now is the same as 2 years ago.

with your rise in popularity, coupled with Eva's tremendous draw and popularity, your content has reached a larger audience, hence why pirates now consider it "profitable" to steal your content.

[GroobySteven]

I'll talk to you later (in between dances) about it and the experience of companies who have tried this. In a nutshell, you know how much I hate piracy - but there are very good reasons for us not being streaming only.

[buttslinger]

Good ole Steven.

Yeah, ask any artist and they'll tell you they made a whole lot of other theeves rich before they got rich.

Do ANY of the girls here have sites in Korean or Chinese?

[Rivz]

I'll thank them with a boot up their arse.

[Rabbiteyes]

Trying to aggressively fight pirates at the cost of customers experience is a losing battle :P They have been trying this with games for a while, and it just turns off your paying customers more than anything.

Also, you have to consider that those on the tube sites are looking for free content...they aren't the ones looking to pay subscriptions.

Think of this as an opportunity, make the pirates work for you.

Simply watermark videos or even advertise within videos to direct traffic back to your website. So even if it shows up on tube sites with a bunch of views, you would still be channeling them back towards your subscriptions pages (And getting more customers).

You can also create smaller promotional videos (if you don't already) and upload the shorter versions of scenes yourself (with more prominent self advertising).

Additionally, increasing the experience for subscribers will give a lot more incentive to subscribe than just the videos. Access to the live streams, library of videos, images, stuff like that which is harder to find a full collection of on a tube site (which seems to be pick and choose).

Basically, subscribing gives the "full experience".... and the tube videos are just a tiny piece of what you are offering.

If you produce content quickly enough, pirates can't really match it.

Other ideas - Shoutouts to supporters (probably not their real name :P But handles. Let them know you see them.

Get subscribers involved more? Voting on what you do for next scenes?

Special gifts? I'm not too sure how successful that would be, but merchandising is pretty easy to do. People like to receive little souvenirs.

It would probably more successful if not overtly porn oriented. A coffee mug "You're the best" or something from a porn star seems like something even a married guy would appreciate (since he knows the meaning, but those visiting the house wouldn't).

Basically, a lot of things you could do besides trying to wall up.

I'm in a different industry...but I actually plan on uploading versions of my product to pirate sites myself Simply with opportunities to pay built in, or with reminders that it is a small team and the support is crucial.

Generally people aren't out to rip you off. Those on tube sites mostly aren't even thinking directly of the economics. If you make people aware, they are much more likely to pay.