Should Bella have been banned for the tranny vs nigger thread?

[Jo-Boo]

I found out from Facebook today and someones post on another thread that Bella was banned for a month.

Plain and simple. What's your opinion?

[nysprod]

Bella wasn't banned...she was exorcised...

[Odelay]

Self deportation. Mitt Romney's dream.

[RallyCola]

i didn't read that thread because i thought no good can come from it.

the reality is that bella is banned and when she returns, it will be as if she never left. you don't really think a ban from this board will change her attitude. some people will enjoy her POV and others will disagree...that's a simple fact of how forums like this one work.

[robertlouis]

Once again, I can't see the point of a thread like this. Bella has been banned. Leave it at that.

[giovanni_hotel]

This board used to be a much nastier and hostile place, but at times I think it's swung too far in the other direction with the almost hair trigger impulse by mods to ban posters.

Was Bella given a specific warning prior to the ban??
Also it's tricky when the owners of this board who also happen to be the biggest producers of tranny porn on the planet are active participants.

For good and bad reasons, Sean and Co. are going to be the target of some posters because of disagreements some may have with their business model.

If Sean and Co. are going to be participants on HA, IMO they should be above it all when it comes to perceived personal slights from HA members.

Bella has issues with the (tranny) porn industry, not anything in particular with Sean or Steve. However too often they take tranny porn criticisms PERSONALLY.

Bans should be reserved IMO for members openly hostile, antagonistic or inflammatory against other posters or the trans-community in general.

Even then a stern public and private warning should precede a ban.

It's hard to find equilibrium on this board. How it was before wasn't sustainable and ran too many girls and posters off.
How it is now is more civil, but at times it feels like HA is being run by a military junta.

Still seeking the middle.

[NYBURBS]

This board used to be a much nastier and hostile place

lol true story. This place used to be like the 'Ol Wild West.

[GroobySteven]

This board used to be a much nastier and hostile place, but at times I think it's swung too far in the other direction with the almost hair trigger impulse by mods to ban posters.

VERY few posters get banned and most for a limited time only between a few days and a few months. Only one person has the kill switch and I stand behind everyone that has been banned. She wasn't banned for the "Tranny/Nigger Thread" she was banned for a cumulative and progressively nastier attacks on more than a few people that day.

Was Bella given a specific warning prior to the ban??

Plenty of warnings before she went postal on a number of people incl. myself.

Also it's tricky when the owners of this board who also happen to be the biggest producers of tranny porn on the planet are active participants.

Not so, when it's clear and apparent whom owns the board and who moderates. If we were trying to be underhand about it, then it would be different.

For good and bad reasons, Sean and Co. are going to be the target of some posters because of disagreements some may have with their business model.

Which is fine. This is partially a feedback/sounding board for our company and you have never seen me delete or moderate someone just for having a disagreement. What you have seen is me engage them and trying to answer why we do something like we do. This has enabled us (me) to have a better platform to answer what we do, then any other self-promotional, customer service device.
However, when one is constantly attacked despite answering those questions, when one or one's company is verbally abused and attacked without grounding or accused of things which are clearly, incorrect, then I don't have the patience or the time for those people and I'm not going to give them the same platform.

If Sean and Co. are going to be participants on HA, IMO they should be above it all when it comes to perceived personal slights from HA members.

Why? If you want my honesty and integrity - and if my personality has worked for 17 yrs in this industry, then you get it all. It's not "perceived personal slights" let's get the language correct. It's specific attacks or name calling.

Bella has issues with the (tranny) porn industry, not anything in particular with Sean or Steve. However too often they take tranny porn criticisms PERSONALLY.

Bella is irrelevant to the porn industry. Her issue stems from the fact she wanted a second shoot when we didn't (and neither did any other company) and she perceived that in-correctly as some sort of industry wide blanket ban - and she placed that at my feet, as the other operators don't have this sort of platform to respond. She wasn't offered a re-shoot based on a number of factors - nobody liked her/enjoyed working with her, and her ratings were too low (whether that was based on physical or performance is irrelevant). Her ongoing attacks on both Grooby and myself are disproportionate and based on some misguided believe that she's an advocate/spokesperson for TS's working in adult. She's not - and no model I know has ever asked her to be.

Bans should be reserved IMO for members openly hostile, antagonistic or inflammatory against other posters or the trans-community in general.

A few other reasons (spamming, underage, etc.) but otherwise agreed, and these are the reasons she took a one month ban.

Even then a stern public and private warning should precede a ban.

Necessary for those who may be new on the board or don't know the rules. Other people in that post were given warnings, specifically one who attacked Bella.

It's hard to find equilibrium on this board. How it was before wasn't sustainable and ran too many girls and posters off.
How it is now is more civil, but at times it feels like HA is being run by a military junta.

Still seeking the middle.

Luckily for you, that's not something you have to do or have responsibility for. I do. This board has more members and participants than it did in it's last years with the previous owners. We've more girls coming (and going) and I believe it's a safer place to play.
While I don't make excuses for my own online personality, I do realize it can be seen as abrasive or rude, and may even be perceived as petty. It is however, consistent and you know what you're going to get - and I believe that it has been an asset to my company and this board. I stand up for what I believe in, I want this board and my company to continue to be progressive, I want to promote both realism but with respect and manners and I believe any tgirl - wherever they fall in the spectrum should be welcome here.

Finally, this is one of the few boards that I know, which offers so much openness. On other boards, owners are absent and mods run the place to their own whims - or they're just allowed to run amok.
If you ask as question here, you will get an answer, you may not like it - but it won't be simply deleted.
This is the only board I know of, where you get accessibility to the management of a company of our type and are able to express what you want - and for that reasons, this board does help shape the things to come.

1 ... 2 ... 3 ... counting how long it takes Jo-Boo to relay this to Bella's Facebook. She does NOT have the right to reply on this thread until/if she returns, so any re-posting of her drivel, will be deleted.

Bella deserved a more than a month ban. She's welcome back after than month - but if she continues constant attacks, she's going to go again, more permanently.

[Genetic]

If Sean and Co. are going to be participants on HA, IMO they should be above it all when it comes to perceived personal slights from HA members.

Bella accused Steven outright of using the word tranny to perpetuate transgenders being homeless, suicidal, poor and depressed so he could profiteer from their misery.

I think that's a bit more than a "perceived slight", I'd say that's an outright accusation.

Bella is totally incapable of understanding that opinions and facts are two different things.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Why was she banned?