An Argument vs. A Discussion...

[zerrrr]

I think the fallout from the Coke commercial shows that the human race as a whole has a long way to go before we achieve some sort of middle ground.

[GroobyKrissy]

I think the fallout from the Coke commercial shows that the human race as a whole has a long way to go before we achieve some sort of middle ground.

Has there been a huge fallout from that? I've kind of been keeping a eye on it but not really.

I thought it was lovely. What's the scuttlebutt on the fallout?

[zerrrr]

Has it really though?

I mean... what is "closer" ? Do we interact with more people on a daily basis? Probably. Are we "closer" to them... probably not.

I was thinking about this the other night while I was out walking my dog and seeing the all too familiar glow of TV from house after house after house. What happened to game night? What happened to families eating around the table?

I suppose it is possible that there were families having a good time watching a funny show together... but is that really interaction and fostering "closeness"?

Can you truly become "close" with someone over the Internet only?

I think we are closer in that we can literally reach out to someone around the world in real time. When I moved back to the US from working in China I stayed in touch with my old girlfriend via Messaging programs. We could chat and see each other via webcam.

We remained close and when she married she moved out of China. First thing she did after joining Facebook and friending her husband and family was friend me.

We still are close and keep in touch.

I have good friends in Singapore that I chat with on a regular basis.

I have made good friends with people that I never met. It can happen.

In that sense we are closer. If I want information on a company overseas I can look it up on the Internet where 20 years ago I had to write a letter or go visit. Now a visit is the last step.

In terms of the family breakdown that happened in the 90's when people started working more than 40 hour weeks and spending less and less time at home.

The children took a backseat to careers at that time. People became so focused on their kids making into the best college that they pushed them into activities that they did not want.

Kids were working more than 60 hours a week driven by parents who were working longer hours. Gone was the family night together because the kids had sports, music, clubs, and school.

It is the breakdown of the family as the reason I never got married. I decided early on that if my potential wife was not 100% committed to raising our children since your child is the greatest gift you can leave this planet then I do not want to get married.

Has there been a huge fallout from that? I've kind of been keeping a eye on it but not really.

I thought it was lovely. What's the scuttlebutt on the fallout?

The Internet reared its ugly head calling the commercial unAmerican because they chose to use a language other than English.

http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post...coca-cola-airs

http://www.mysanantonio.com/lifestyl...ts-5199872.php

There is a smaller backlash against the Cheerios ad because everyone is so focused on Coke.

[Ben in LA]

Oh, I would agree with the premise that anonymity furthers the breakdown of polite conversation 100%.

being anonymous really just provides for unaccountability. I think it has already been mentioned here that given unaccountability, humanity does, largely, devolve.

You can see this played out time and time again when people who are good at snooping track someone down who left a rude FB post, Twitter post, or etc. and call them out. When faced with the revealing of who they are, they typically will back down, back track, or "clarify" their comment.

And this is why I call out folks who thumb down my posts when I'm saying something positive and such. I've noticed those ratings have declined quite a lot due to that. I'm not that anonymous, hence I don't do such things.

[jobgoblin]

Speaking of which, I had the perverse pleasure of enjoying your discussions recently with Bella on a couple of threads on the meaning and context of words. But now find she's been banned for a month.

An Argument vs. A Discussion vs. A Ban

http://bella-xxx.info/2014/02/05/banned-by-grooby/

[Dino Velvet]

or... categorize the source and save even more time.

My grandfather told me the best way to control the mind of a sorcerer is to remove the sorcerer's head. You can also consume the sorcerer's power by consuming the sorcerer.

[Jo-Boo]

Speaking of which, I had the perverse pleasure of enjoying your discussions recently with Bella on a couple of threads on the meaning and context of words. But now find she's been banned for a month.

An Argument vs. A Discussion vs. A Ban

http://bella-xxx.info/2014/02/05/banned-by-grooby/

What? Bella has been banned for a month. Why? Because she debated and took on about five other people from my memory of last nights debate on the word tranny vs nigger and won. I found kriss to be very amusing with his bullshit circular arguments, dodging the questions, writing dissertations for every response, and contradicting himself. Seriously, Bella gets banned and now we get this fucking guy (krissy) posting his crap like there is no tomorrow. WTF! Just because Bella has a different opinion than kriss that somehow equals a ban.

[GroobyKrissy]

What? Bella has been banned for a month. Why? Because she debated and took on about five other people from my memory of last nights debate on the word tranny vs nigger and won. I found kriss to be very amusing with his bullshit circular arguments, dodging the questions, writing dissertations for every response, and contradicting himself. Seriously, Bella gets banned and now we get this fucking guy (krissy) posting his crap like there is no tomorrow. WTF! Just because Bella has a different opinion than kriss that somehow equals a ban.

Look, I don't speak ill of anyone if they don't have the means to defend themselves. That being said, since you're obviously either her or a stool (wow... odd spelling mistake) of her making...

You know... I've now read all the social media posts that Bella has written on the subject. I find it incredibly odd that she fails to mention any way, in any form, that I, publicly and openly, stated that I would be against any sort of ban or even censorship for anything she had written.

I wonder why that isn't being disclosed anywhere... at all? Seems weird to me.

You'd think that after the way she is going on and on about this ban, and how I caused it... that little fact... would... maybe... be... important... to... include... just in the interests of being HONEST and TRUTHFUL. Of course, I've learned these are both things that don't really interest her at all.