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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    Idk if we can say this is exactly correct...while I would suggest Miranda needs professional help to actually resolve issues, from what I've seen she's made friends and found support here which perhaps is useful to some degree.
    I'm not going to get into discussing Miranda in the 3rd person.

    How many of the people on here do you really know as friends or have had personal interaction with?
    Would you expect or even want support from here other than something TS/porn related?
    Don't you think that much of the support from here (or on other social networks where it's fan based) has little validity other than "fans" trying to appease or pander?


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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    As an aside... I'll never qualify anything I have to say, as I mean every last word, but my use of hyperbolic rhetoric is definitely meant to raise a smirk from my more knowing and sardonic readers.

    Hope that clears some things up because what I wrote above is as close as I'll ever come to diplomacy on these boards.


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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by tsmirandameadows View Post
    There is an implied statement in your question. The question could easily be rewritten "Many transgirls have mental health problems. Why?" with no change in meaning. Certainly my experience has been that nearly all of us have some sort of behavioral pathology. Now behavior problems do not mean you're hearing voices telling you to burn things, but the thing is, much of what we call "mental illness" is just negative social-emotional behavior. Yet, the word negative requires you to ask "negative according to whom?" The answer is often just negative according to what society considers normal and acceptable. One of the great challenges of the mental heath field is the extent to which "mental health problem" is just a stand in for "different from social norms." And let's be honest here, we're mostly talking about tgirls in porn, because that's what we all know, and if you were to ask "mainstream society" what sort of girl goes into porn, the answer would be "one with some serious 'mental health' issues".

    And I don't have access to anyone to "work with". That, coupled with my near complete social isolation, means this forum is the outlet I have.
    I don't live in your country and I don't know how supporting is organized, but is there any LGBT office near, which could give you any help or recommend proper specialists who could help you? Maybe you could find some friends in LGBT community. The worst is to isolate yourself and be alone with problems. Of course you have to work with your problems yourself, but with proper guide and support it is far easier than without. Forum is good to talk with others and to get an advice, but it could not substitute a physical presence of someone near to you.



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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by sosed View Post
    I don't live in your country and I don't know how supporting is organized, but is there any LGBT office near, which could give you any help or recommend proper specialists who could help you? Maybe you could find some friends in LGBT community. The worst is to isolate yourself and be alone with problems. Of course you have to work with your problems yourself, but with proper guide and support it is far easier than without. Forum is good to talk with others and to get an advice, but it could not substitute a physical presence of someone near to you.
    http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=84039



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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    I'm not going to get into this with you Miranda.
    I think you need to look for help off this board and trying to discuss mental health issues where, given the posts you've made here and on other social networks isn't helpful to you.
    I don't mean this to be cruel, dismissive or unkind - but I really don't think this place and the amount you're sharing (and the attention that it's got) can be good for you.
    It's better than nothing, which is the alternative.


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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    I'm not going to get into discussing Miranda in the 3rd person.

    How many of the people on here do you really know as friends or have had personal interaction with?
    Other guys like me? I would say 6 that I hang out with and talk to offline.

    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    Would you expect or even want support from here other than something TS/porn related?
    Not for myself, but I'm not dealing with the types of issues Miranda is.

    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    Don't you think that much of the support from here (or on other social networks where it's fan based) has little validity other than "fans" trying to appease or pander?
    I don't know about the type of support Miranda received on other social networks, but I would say a lot of what I saw on the "Goodbye" thread seemed the exact opposite.


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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    As someone who has been in long term relationships with transgendered females in various "stages" of transition I will say the following:

    1: Transgendered females are subject to, or subjected to more discrimination and rejection than GG females. They get all the chauvinism that GG females get, PLUS all the discrimination and rejection that a gay man/transsexual gets.

    2: therefore, it can be argued that this discrimination and rejection causes mental instability to some degree.

    3: If there is mental instability in a Transsexual female, and it is triggered because of environmental and sociological factors, then it can be said the PERSON (not the trans status) has mental instability.

    4: However , being TRANS in itself can be enough of a trigger for the mental instability.

    Would the mental instability have happened if the person was not trans? Hard to say. Most people don't go to shrinks until they are already a nutcase or worse, commit suicide.

    Out of all the trans that I know in person, and talk to on a frequent basis, the majority exhibit a varying degree of mental instability.

    What does this means? Well, I'm not their personal shrink, so It doesn't mean anything other than they have issues. But we all have issues.

    If you were to ask me, "do your trans friends SEEM TO HAVE MORE mental instability than your gg/male friends?" then, I would say most definitely , yes.

    That's just my take, it does seem TRANSSEXUAL FEMALES have alot more to deal with than gg's/males (including transmen).


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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by my my my! View Post

    If you were to ask me, "do your trans friends SEEM TO HAVE MORE mental instability than your gg/male friends?" then, I would say most definitely , yes.

    That's just my take, it does seem TRANSSEXUAL FEMALES have alot more to deal with than gg's/males (including transmen).
    No argument with your first point at all. I just disagree it's a majority.

    I also agree with your second point but whether that's what leads to mental issues, is dependent on the person and possible other factors.



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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by TatianaSummer View Post
    It seems like 90% of the girls I know are struggling with some kind of mental issue. Of course I would say this has to do with being transgender but rarely I meet a girl that is just down to earth, relax, and not a drama queen. I know sometimes it has to do with their past and experiences though but hopefully I start seeing a change in this. I know also a few transgender guys (at least 3) and at least all the ones I know don't have any of these mental issues and they just live a "regular" life. So is it the hormones the girls are taking? or not taking hormones what is causing this? Ok now I am lost, LOL. what is your opinion on this?
    I disagree and agree to some extends.

    I agree that those who work in "adult industry" seem to have this mental instability with few exceptions.

    but i disagree if you look at tgirl in general.
    I've met tgirls outside the porn and escorting, and mentally speaking, they are more healthy and stable. Especially those who have secured career and established their life in society.

    Though my life is not easy, I personally think, i'm ok mentally.
    Passability definitely helps. Our life as a tgirl is definitely more challenging if we are not passable.

    And those who are really passable and mingling well in normal life/social setting, don't even consider them as tgirl anymore.

    Honestly speaking, I start seeing myself to become that way.

    My honest opinion, hours prior to my feminization surgery.

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    Default Re: Why so many transgender girls are struggling with mental issues these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by asianphoenixx View Post
    I agree that those who work in "adult industry" seem to have this mental instability with few exceptions.

    but i disagree if you look at tgirl in general.
    I've met tgirls outside the porn and escorting, and mentally speaking, they are more healthy and stable. Especially those who have secured career and established their life in society.
    This would be the same in gender girls also.
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