Precious Apologizes For Using The Word “Tranny'

[robertlouis]

Strictly speaking, I lived in Round Rock, which aside from a few tech industry commuters, most definitely IS Texas.

tibi epistulam misi.

[RyderMonroe]

Well like I said , it wasn't really her using the word that was offensive. It was her deriding of the trans women who are routinely targeted by police in New Orleans that was the real callous part of it I think. Her use of the word to describe them is predictable given her apparent lack of empathy she showed my making fun of that situation in the first place . You may not experience discrimination Jaimie but many trans women of color do. 10 times over if they're black and visibly trans. You shouldn't disregard their experiences . Police targeting trans women is a real thing especially in New Orleans for trans women of color.

[robertlouis]

Well like I said , it wasn't really her using the word that was offensive. It was her deriding of the trans women who are routinely targeted by police in New Orleans that was the real callous part of it I think. Her use of the word to describe them is predictable given her apparent lack of empathy she showed my making fun of that situation in the first place . You may not experience discrimination Jaimie but many trans women of color do. 10 times over if they're black and visibly trans. You shouldn't disregard their experiences . Police targeting trans women is a real thing especially in New Orleans for trans women of color.

You've nailed it there, Ryder, and I guess that's what I was trying to say several pages earlier lol.

It's the context in which the word is used that's all-important, and it's abundantly clear that she was going out of her way to use the word in a pejorative and insulting manner.

[Ben in LA]

On a different note...it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out Arsenio likes to "dress up"...

Yeah, right...

[Jamie French]

And I don't think awful things about all the silly ass hats I encounter on a day to day basis? Everyone has something about them someone else might find disagreeable. I keep my mouth shut out of politeness every bit as much as anyone else for any number of reasons. If someone is polite enough to not fuck with me even though the gender thing might creep them out then they are abiding by the social contract exactly as I do. They get a pass in the same way that I get a pass.

Any time I've been arrested for traffic warrants or some such garbage the police have always gone out of there way to make sure my arrest & time in jail was as hassle free as possible. I get my own cell and everything far away from riffraff that might cause problems. And as far as work goes... not applicable to me. I hate work. I'd never apply for a job on the grid. I've done everything in my power to assure that I never have to answer to a suit or a man with a name tag.

You have to remember that you're dealing with the South and Southerners are nothing if not polite. I never had anyone threatening me in the streets when I lived in Austin, but conversely, I never got a call back on any job application in which I was forced to out myself, and the girls I was living with routinely get hassled by the cops for all manner of contrived reasons. The point is, your average Texan may not say anything to you face to face, but that doesn't mean they aren't thinking it, and won't act on if they have something to hide behind, i.e. a badge, or a HR desk.

[Jamie French]

I'd stop living where it was always a hassle to be myself. I've been homeless, I've lived in cash cars, I've couch surfed for years. I know what a drag it is to pick up stakes and leave when you don't have the funds to do so. Fuck it, break a couple of laws and do what it takes to get yourself in a proper environment. That's what I did. I refuse to suffer unjustly. I urge the oppressed to stop putting up with bullshit. Not by complaining but by taking matters into your own hands and fucking some shit up. It's the only real way. Whining about words is a safe and wholly in effective way to bend life to your favor. You gotta get your hands dirty. You'll pay a few penalties, learn a few hard lessons, but ultimately you'll be free and in a position where you can afford to be snarky and dismissive on your very own internet connection... just like me.

Well like I said , it wasn't really her using the word that was offensive. It was her deriding of the trans women who are routinely targeted by police in New Orleans that was the real callous part of it I think. Her use of the word to describe them is predictable given her apparent lack of empathy she showed my making fun of that situation in the first place . You may not experience discrimination Jaimie but many trans women of color do. 10 times over if they're black and visibly trans. You shouldn't disregard their experiences . Police targeting trans women is a real thing especially in New Orleans for trans women of color.

[tsmirandameadows]

And I don't think awful things about all the silly ass hats I encounter on a day to day basis? Everyone has something about them someone else might find disagreeable. I keep my mouth shut out of politeness every bit as much as anyone else for any number of reasons. If someone is polite enough to not fuck with me even though the gender thing might creep them out then they are abiding by the social contract exactly as I do. They get a pass in the same way that I get a pass.

Any time I've been arrested for traffic warrants or some such garbage the police have always gone out of there way to make sure my arrest & time in jail was as hassle free as possible. I get my own cell and everything far away from riffraff that might cause problems. And as far as work goes... not applicable to me. I hate work. I'd never apply for a job on the grid. I've done everything in my power to assure that I never have to answer to a suit or a man with a name tag.

Here's a thought experiment: there is someone whom you dislike intensely for whatever reason. You keep this to yourself and are polite to this person when you have to interact with them. Despite your politeness, you actually desire to kill this person. If you could kill him or her and get away with it, you would do so without hesitation. Failing an opportunity for murder, you are always on the look out for ways in which you can do this person wrong, so long as you bear no consequence for it. Nevertheless, you are always polite in your interactions with this person. Are you abiding by the letter of the social contract you mentioned? Are you abiding by the spirit of the contract? Does politeness exculpate a willingness to inflict harm on someone? What if we're not talking about an individual, but rather a group which you have prejudged? Does your politeness excuse your prejudgement and your willingness to inflict harm upon members of said group without regard to their individual merits?

This analogy isn't 100% comparable -- social exclusion and shunning, i.e. systematic denial of employment and systematic harassment by law enforcement, isn't murder after all -- but there's a reason Achilles tells Odysseus that the man most worthy of hate is the one who says one thing and holds another in his heart. We intuitively retch at the idea when people treat us one way, face to face, but then have something very different to say about us when we're not present. When someone regards you with scorn and inflicts harm upon you on the basis of prejudgement, I don't think trying to conceal that is somehow a virtue or a fulfillment of the social contract: if anything, it just makes the person more blameworthy.

[RyderMonroe]

Were you already living that life before you transitioned? If I recall correctly you spent much of your adult life as a crossdresser. You had white male privilege and it's not so easy for everyone. These girls are young and vulnerable and are faced with very real violence. You can't just chalk it up to these girls not being strong or willing to survive. There are very real life obstacles that exist for them at every turn. You should have more sympathy. For the ppl that would be offended by someone going on tv and completely making fun of the abject discrimination and police brutality that they deal with.

[Jamie French]

WOAH there! You assume white male privilege because that'd give you the argumentative advantage. You don't DON'T have that bit of arsenal this go around. The ONLY reason I could have been qualified as a CD is because I simply didn't have access to hormone therapy or the proper finances needed to afford everything else that goes with transition. I've never lived as a man outright. From the age of 13 on I've had to gradually ware on my friends and family before I reached outright acceptance. I had NO fucking privileges and have never treated my gender in an experimental fashion. When I was 19 I compromised ONCE in order not to be thrown out of my families home. Then I threw all that out the window and decided that homeless and happy was better than secure and miserable. I threw away a three year engagement with someone who couldn't follow me as I took up full time therapy and transition. Don't assume. I come directly from the fucking streets. I'm tough as shit and have enough experience with self actualization in the face of adversity to spread over nine goddamned lives.

Were you already living that life before you transitioned? If I recall correctly you spent much of your adult life as a crossdresser. You had white male privilege and it's not so easy for everyone. These girls are young and vulnerable and are faced with very real violence. You can't just chalk it up to these girls not being strong or willing to survive. There are very real life obstacles that exist for them at every turn. You should have more sympathy. For the ppl that would be offended by someone going on tv and completely making fun of the abject discrimination and police brutality that they deal with.

[RyderMonroe]

Well then you should know first hand how hard it is.