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    I am the opinion that the Transexual phenomenon began stronger in this last 20/30 years or so, as soon as many people began to switch from believer to non believers and there was a huge drop of faith, especially amongst women who felt him to be kinda of racist god and to give all the power to men.

    So our forgotten god, decided to create more Ts to give to everyone a better understanding of what he/she is and what it is not-

    The god can’t be male or female, neither a she nor a he, moreover the god is an atheist itself. It can be only a Ts god / M-t-F / F-t-M and neither this nor that.
    There is obviously no god as such, and just an image created by ourselves to feel more at ease and I like to call it “godliness” rather than using the stereotyped usual words. The image of the fake god is more for those who cannot grow in perception, and need the consolation of a father figure.

    Someone was asked if he believed in god and the poor guy was only able to give long answers by saying: Yes/No/Yes-No-both/ Perhaps yes, Perhaps not, perhaps both not/ Perhaps both yes and not and so he went on for ages….

    Along with the idea of the god, comes also the idea of sin, and I find it a bit unfair the way we should all be punished for all of our supposed sins. For sins made in an average life of 70/80 I should be punished in the other life and be in the eternal hell? More over one begins to commit sins at the age of 14/15 yo when one begins to be fully conscious of his/her action…. Plus a few more years until he is 70/80 yo, when one loses even the strength to commit a sin and he does it in more unconscious way. It is really an unfair equation as in 55/60 active years one must be punished for life.

    I am happy for now to follow my deduction and to think that Forgetfulness is the only sin-

    By the way this thread is very enlightening and happy to see so many who have commented on it….
    It is a little more complicated than that. Transgender individuals have always been around in one way, shape, or form. Most spirits and beings are one singular gender of their particular race (in our case human). Native Americans used the term two-spirit to describe individuals that were either Transgender or had two spirits occupying a body for a particular reason.

    Higher level spirits can take on multiple genders some moving between male and female or evolved to be both.

    There are Transgender gods/goddesses/deities depending on the religion but many are minor and have been forgotten over time but they are aware.

    Even if you do not believe in the concept of a god that is cool because that is your choice. The only unfortunate part is that some atheists down here do not realize that by having no concept of a god means they have greater responsibility for their actions. 100% free will comes at a choice. The choice to always know the difference between right and wrong and not just your right or your wrong.

    You are 100% correct on the whole sin thing.

    Some transgender individuals, mostly in Asian cultures, have two spirits sharing a body on this planet. I met one transgender woman in Toronto who was Thai. Many people could not understand her but I figured her out by taking a moment to do an in-depth search. What I discovered was that a husband and wife wanted to come down and occupy a body together with the male spirit being the strong business sense while the female spirit was more of a homemaker. Once I understood that part of her, knowing what spirit I was speaking with made dealing with her easy.

    Some people come down as a punishment. For example, Buddhist priests who do evil are punished by coming back as a woman in a mans body since a woman is treated different in their culture. It is not all cases but some.

    Others come down to hide from something that may be chasing them on the other side or from a past life.

    It is not as simple or as black and white as our culture decries so often.


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    Even if you do not believe in the concept of a god that is cool because that is your choice. The only unfortunate part is that some atheists down here do not realize that by having no concept of a god means they have greater responsibility for their actions. 100% free will comes at a choice. The choice to always know the difference between right and wrong and not just your right or your wrong.
    Another unfortunate part is that some theists don’t seem to realize that what constitutes moral behavior isn’t necessarily determined by the Creator God nor is it that which is espoused by His prophets. Morality and godhood are two independent notions and neither entails the other. Believers have been known to pray fervently, commune with God, hear His Word in their heads and then commit horrendous atrocities, thinking they were doing the right and moral thing because God commanded it.

    Moreover, whether or not we have free-will (or 100% free-will, as you put it) is independent of whether there is a god or not. In most religions people have the choice to do good or ill, albeit they will eventually be rewarded or punished for their choices. In some religions we have no free-will and everything we do is preordained. Some religions maintain God Himself can do no evil. This is sometimes understood as a restriction on God’s will and sometimes misunderstood as the definition of Good (this error is nicely explored in Mark Twain’s novella The Mysterious Stranger). Perhaps the more reasonable understanding is that what is Good is not determined by God but rather God always freely chooses to do Good; but of course this is an additional assumption which doesn’t follow from the assumption that there is a creator god. 'God exists' is one assumption. 'God is Good' is another.

    It is not as simple or as black and white as our culture decries so often.
    As for spirits inhabiting bodies, coming down, rising up, or being chased across the nether dimensions by their own karma: these notions involve a slew of additional independent assumptions which, however, are not too difficult to assess. The world of make-believe rarely simple and certainly never mundane. You may enjoy the novels of David Mitchell. Cloud Atlas, The Bone Clocks and Slade House are very entertaining.


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    since there is no God, then it figures...



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    Quote Originally Posted by holzz View Post
    since there is no God, then it figures...
    You Rang????

    Happy Easter!

    Oh what, now the Easter Bunny doesn't exist either?????
    How about Alice's White Rabbit, does he exist?
    Somewhere in the HALL of IMAGINATION there is a FACTS and FIGURES ROOM that charts the WORTHWHILENESS of all seven and a half billion people.

    Just kidding.



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    That one must be the Easter bunny. This one's Alice's ->
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    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    See this thread has gone down hill
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin48 View Post
    See this thread has gone down hill
    Because the thread has become dominated by infantile cartoons, rather than a debate.

    Donald Trump's flippant remark on women and abortion, in which he said that women who have a termination should be 'punished' -a statement he then had to retract- illustrates his indifference to women, but also a sudden impulse to say what he thinks the Republican Party wants to hear, only even they have held back from the kind of policy that exists in countries such as El Salvador where women have been imprisoned for terminating a pregnancy and one woman was incarcerated for having a miscarriage (though it is not clear if the prosecutors could tell the difference).

    There was a time when the Republican Party did not have a single position on abortion, it has been argued that it was a campaign by the Moral Majority that began in the 1970s which merged with the existing if marginal evangelical Christian churches to change the way the GOP thought about this issue, galvanised by Roe-vs-Wade after 1973 much as Jon O'Brien claims:

    "Taking over school boards at local and district levels, the evangelical politicians rose through the ranks of the Republican Party and eventually took over the party platform. These were the same tactics used during Prohibition by the temperance movement, which preyed on the fears of the conservative Protestant Scottish contingent in the United States by using stereotypes of drunken Irish and Polish to galvanize the vote against them."
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6961881.html

    It is a curious aspect of Evangelical Christianity in the USA -if that is what it is- that it should appear to be so angry, and vengeful, and focus its attention on 'sin' and 'bad behaviour', rather than promote goodness in society, and the capacity that people have to co-operate and be charitable, indeed, to improve the quality of life -dare one even say 'the spiritual life'. Oddly perhaps, or not, this bleak agenda of societies cast down by attacks on the family (abortion, same-sex marriage), on the economy (state control and taxes), and belief and 'public morals' (godless, immoral cinema and tv; pornography on the internet), sounds like a menu of corrosion from within that might have been written by the fundamentalists of Daesh or al-Qaeda, or the government of Saudi Arabia (but maybe not on taxes).

    Another curious tone was set in Obama's first campaign, because he offered a different agenda from the constant Republican Party factions ranting on about what is wrong with America -his message of 'hope and change' may have seemed absurdly wonderful, yet the tone it set was one that people responded to after years of terrorism and war, and one can see today the radical difference with the angry brigades that follow Trump and Sanders, and while they might have a lot to be angry about, the tone it sets in public debate makes politics uncomfortable and even dangerous. If the view is that 'American is broken' and the next guy must fix it, what happens when he fails?

    The Old Testament God of Moses was a jealous and an angry God, the God of Jesus, we like to believe, was by contrast a loving God. It seems to me that the decline of religious belief in the USA is measured by the ever more strident position of the Republican Party, and this is one reason why I think they appear on this side of the pond to be out of touch on a range of social issues on which most Americans are either relaxed or don't get upset about. They appear to have chosen rage over calm, emergency over tedium, and punishment over reward. I am not sure that the Democrats are any more coherent on a range of issues, Sanders offers little in terms of hope, but that suggests to me that both parties are struggling to develop a policy framework that will create jobs and grow the economy, on which it is not so much 'God only knows', as an area where even God cannot help.


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