Do nice guys finish last?

[Curiousguy04]

Why do nice guys finish last? Or is it just me? I was taught to treat people the way i wanted to be treated. I treat women with respect and it seems im always getting looked over for a bad boy. And then later they break up with em because he wasnt what they thought he would be. So am i doing something wrong? I just dont know.

[Infern0]

it's not about being a "bad boy" it's about not being a pussy.

[Instrumental]

You aren't a "nice guy" you're a guy who acts like a door mat and doesn't take any initiative.

Basically what Infern0 said.

[Yeah]

Yes. Always finish last in my experience. Just the way it is. I to always treat people well or even better than they should be treated and get screwed over. As for women I always ended up the nice guy friend while they date badboy types, who treat them shitty and they tell you they wish so and so could be more like you. When the girl gets dumped or kicks the loser to the curb, she will hang out until next loser comes along and drop you like a bad habit. Thats the way it is with certain girls. Plain and simple. They use your company when convient for them and drop you when they want. Because they believe you will always let them come back. Either get use to it or look for a better class of girl with some kind of morals. Forget about the girls you hang out with thinking you have a chance with them if you treat them better than their loser boyfriend. It ain't going to happen. She's got you in the friend/user zone and with girls that are mentally unstable or got seriously screwed up by assholes or just plain like badboys, you are a doormat to them. Thats it. Exccept it and be at their beck and call or find a decent girl. Sorry to rant on bud. I have had some fuck up experiences with some girls that for awhile turned my life into a living hell. Unfortunately I fell in love with a girl who filled my head with the idea that I was so impotant to her and she wouldn't know what she would do if I was in her life, but would never give me chance even though she loved me too. But she wasn't in love with me and a relationship would ruin our friendship. So for years I painfully watch her date and hookup with tons of guys waiting but nothing ever change until she kept distancing herself from me to the point she didn't need me around anymore. So do yourself a favor and forget about the fun time girls and look for quality. You will save yourself alot of pain and torment trying to figure out why certain girls won't look you way. If they won't give you the time of day, then they aren't worth yours period.

[Infern0]

So for years I painfully watch her date and hookup with tons of guys waiting but nothing ever change until she kept distancing herself from me to the point she didn't need me around anymore.

For fucks sakes man

where was your self respect?

[Yeah]

For fucks sakes man

where was your self respect?

Yeah. I know. Really didnt have much back than or experience with women and unfortunately met one who exploited both. The good side of that horrible time is now I see that shit coming a mile away. Lol. Your right. A guy doesn't have to be a badboy or asshole, just don't let a girl take you for granted or be inconsiderate to you. Don't take shit like I did. Kick her in the ass or to the curb. What ever works better for you.

[dderek123]

Shy guys finish last.

[Ben in LA]

Shy guys finish last.

This is true as well.

[fred41]

Also, often guys like girls that are out of their league but don't look at it that way. Often the "bad boys" that they compare themselves too are also better looking or have more charisma...but they figure - if only she sees what a nice guy I am.

[fred41]

it's not about being a "bad boy" it's about not being a pussy.

So true... this should be printed on a T-Shirt.