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02-20-2014 #61
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Afore ye go: Trish, look at in the context of human societies trying to develop the legal means to maintain social order in a precarious environment prone to drought, flood, scarcity, abundance -look at it in the context of a world view in which supernatural forces are very real and explain what happens, even what you see -what we call ancient civilisations did not have the benefit of science as we do today, and all those rules, even what you might want to call phobias, had a rational explanation. The legacy is in a myriad of tales, poems, narratives, but also in a fundamental way in law. Today we don't need to be told God will be angry for our sins, and yet people do have morals and make moral judgements, even if not in the context of religion.
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02-20-2014 #62
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God is not an imaginary being. Don't take my word for it. Unless Buddha, Jesus, and Mohammad were all the greatest practical jokers of all time, there is a God that is the goal. All roads lead to Rome and all lives lead to God.
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It’s not difficult to understand the appeal of religion to bronze age peoples, nor the political and social stability religious belief provides to the monarch and the priests know how to exploit it. One might even be able to explain how this prohibition had a modicum of survival value or that ritual worked to stabilize the body politic. The difficulty I have is understanding why people today find those stories particularly instructive, especially morally. They obviously fail as scientific explanations, but just as obviously they often fail miserably at being morally instructive. One might get better instruction watching Breaking Bad.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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02-20-2014 #64
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God is not an imaginary being. Don't take my word for it. Unless Buddha, Jesus, and Mohammad were all the greatest practical jokers of all time,
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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02-21-2014 #67
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You are right Satan is not mentioned in Genesis - in fact he seems to be rather a minor character in the whole story. Yes, my post was a "parody" (must remember Amercians don't usually get irony). I agree that where we are today - our moral norms, our laws, our societal structures - all owe much to religion; but it doesn't make it true or that it is the right path to follow.
The future of humankind is in our hands and not in the hands of a deity.
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02-21-2014 #68
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02-21-2014 #69
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Once a person goes beyond self interest, to family community, etc, I don't see any major system besides religion, that promotes a universal treatment of others. Yes religions, often fall short of this, but compared to the next largest natural human grouping, nations, they are much more benign. It is reality nations, that promote the most wars, for the major example WW II, with over 50 million casualties. They often are the catalyst for change within nations. For example, the struggle to end slavery in the US was led religious people on moral grounds. Some people today are making money, the new god. They say technology would have freed the slaves, making them economically obsolete. The issue with the money god, is that unfair business practices can get minimized.
I see many examples cited here of God doing this or that. I see that as mostly someone trying to explain/understand why certain bad thing happen to people. These are minor, compared to greater principles that are often expressed in the Bible, or the Koran, for that matter. Those principles never change, people are just failing to understand, what they are. And unfortunately this also includes, some religious leadership. Then again there are also examples of this, in the Bible.
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