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    Quote Originally Posted by 95racer View Post
    This has minimum to do with health care and more about redistribution of wealth and control.
    I don't understand this argument. By providing more people with access to health care, wealth is being vastly redistributed? That's not a coherent theory. Yes, people who can't afford health care are now able to get insurance, but they are not being provided with significant wealth. You could make the same argument about any social program, insofar as they provide services to those in need they re-distribute some wealth.

    The true test of whether there is a significant redistribution of wealth is whether there is an incentive to work and an opportunity to become wealthy. Both exist and any limit to the latter has more to do with entrenchment of the previously wealthy than any deficiency in our free markets.

    And Rusty, with 4k less to spend on prostitutes you might cut down on your out of pocket expenses for std treatment;.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 95racer View Post
    They will force him on generics which we tried and didn't perform as well.
    I thought generics were supposed to be bio-equivalent? Are you talking about him having to take different formulations, or the generic equivalent of an off-patent brand drug?

    I am asking because I really don't know.


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    Getting health insurance is far different from getting health care. Look at the numbers of doctors and hospitals that are not going to accept these plans because of the lower payouts.


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    To be compliant with the ACA insurers are required to show each policy has an "adequate network of providers." Doctors and hospitals have already examined the reimbursement schedules and signed on to the plans. Don't believe everything Cruz or the looney tune fox news team is trying to scare you with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    I thought generics were supposed to be bio-equivalent? Are you talking about him having to take different formulations, or the generic equivalent of an off-patent brand drug?

    I am asking because I really don't know.
    Interestingly, generics can be subject to a negative placebo effect. Some argue that pharma knows this and markets drugs accordingly, sowing distrust of generics among the general public. The word "generic" itself is problematic, and some have argued that "bio-equivalent" would be a fairer term with fewer negative connotations.

    That's not to say 95racer's dad's experience is imaginary. The placebo effect is physiologically real. So he should be able to get name-brand APDs though the Medicare Rx benefit.


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    What a largely meanspirited bunch. It seems that there's still a huge constituency in America that says fuck the poor and the sick. You should be applauding moves towards bringing everyone under the protection of the healthcare umbrella. It's a historic shift.

    You do realise that any developed state which can't or refuses to offer affordable healthcare to all its citizens doesn't deserve to be called civilised? Is the US right and every other wealthy western democracy wrong?


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    This was shared by a friend on Facebook. Need I say anything more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben in LA View Post
    This was shared by a friend on Facebook. Need I say anything more?
    I agree Ben.

    By the way, who's the deliciously hot young lady in your current avatar? I've temporarily lost all interest in politics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by robertlouis View Post
    I agree Ben.

    By the way, who's the deliciously hot young lady in your current avatar? I've temporarily lost all interest in politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben in LA View Post
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    Thank you Ben.

    That is, without doubt, a perfect woman.


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