So how many got their Obamacare yet?

[bat1]

It's the law!

must have it or pay a fine, I'm told they will keep your tax refund
if you don't get it...

[BBaggins06]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling ... Chinese chickens everywhere!!!

[Rusty Eldora]

I did not do the exchange in WA, don't want to tell them all my private stuff. My health plan has been cancelled, I was 345/mo for a 2K deductible, 7k total out of pocket policy that I really liked. The plan they said is the best replacement is a 5K deductible, 6.3K total OOP but 520 a month!! That is nearly 200 increase for a huge deductible. Looking at my typical healthcare bills of around 4K, it was cheaper to go Gold at 750 per month. But I am out over 4K more each year, that is 15 to 20 less Tgirl visits I can make, that does not sound healthy.

[RallyCola]

as a provider...i can tell you that i won't be seeing any increased revenue from your increased costs. while universal healthcare is appropriate, this implementation leaves so much to be desired and the only people who are benefiting from this are insurance company shareholders.

[nysprod]

I did not do the exchange in WA, don't want to tell them all my private stuff. My health plan has been cancelled, I was 345/mo for a 2K deductible, 7k total out of pocket policy that I really liked. The plan they said is the best replacement is a 5K deductible, 6.3K total OOP but 520 a month!! That is nearly 200 increase for a huge deductible. Looking at my typical healthcare bills of around 4K, it was cheaper to go Gold at 750 per month. But I am out over 4K more each year, that is 15 to 20 less Tgirl visits I can make, that does not sound healthy.

Anyone who voted for Obama because they believed what he said about the Affordable Health Care act, and I fall into this unfortunate group, has fallen for the biggest sucker punch in the history of mankind.

The AHCA is Obama the socialist's wealth re-distribution plan come to life, and it will hurt the middle class most.

I can only hope that all Democrats will join me in renouncing their democratic affiliations and vote strictly Republican going forward.

[Rusty Eldora]

Anyone who voted for Obama because they believed what he said about the Affordable Health Care act, and I fall into this unfortunate group, has fallen for the biggest sucker punch in the history of mankind.

The AHCA is Obama the socialist's wealth re-distribution plan come to life, and it will hurt the middle class most.

I can only hope that all Democrats will join me in renouncing their democratic affiliations and vote strictly Republican going forward.

I am Libertarian and I certainly didn't vote for the One, his big government let me watch everything you do in your life and I know better attitude makes me want to vomit. The R's have been less than desirable in many aspects, but yes we need to vote for pols that are for freedom first.

[95racer]

My Dad's premium increased 34%, deductible 68%, and two of his Parkinson's/ dementia meds will no longer be covered. They will force him on generics which we tried and didn't perform as well. Or we pay cash for the meds.

This is only the beginning. Additional major taxes start in 2014 and employer mandates similar to the private insurance. This has minimum to do with health care and more about redistribution of wealth and control.

[thombergeron]

My Dad's premium increased 34%, deductible 68%, and two of his Parkinson's/ dementia meds will no longer be covered. They will force him on generics which we tried and didn't perform as well. Or we pay cash for the meds.

This is only the beginning. Additional major taxes start in 2014 and employer mandates similar to the private insurance. This has minimum to do with health care and more about redistribution of wealth and control.

Uhhh... how old is your dad? He's got Parkinsons/dementia and he's under 65? That's pretty unusual.

If he's over 65, I'm unaware of any APDs that are not covered by either Medicare Part D or the Medicare Advantage Prescription Plan. You need to get him fully invested in Medicare.

And which major taxes are starting in 2014?

That red map looks really scary until you consider that it's illustrating rates in the individual market, which represents about 3% of the total U.S. population. On the other hand, the percentage of U.S. population that lacked insurance prior to provisions of the ACA taking effect is about 5 times higher than that.

Lots of fact-free whining in this thread. You guys should do a little bias-free reading.

If you think you're getting screwed under the ACA, simply track your costs and request an accounting from your carrier at the end of next year. The ACA requires that carriers maintain an 80% medical-loss ratio. That means 80% of your premium must be spent on care. If it's not, you are entitled to a refund.

And yes, Rally, providers will make less money under the conditions of the ACA. That's a feature, not a bug. Medical care in the U.S. is too expensive. The clinicians I work with understand that because, you know, they're interested in providing care first and making scads of money second. So most are happy to see a reduction in personal income in order to see more people get access to care.

Which is what's happening. More Americans are getting access to healthcare. Five of you post up in here to bitch and moan about how you personally are being screwed by Kenyan socialism, and not one of you even mentions the literally millions of previously uninsured people who now have coverage.

So, screw you. For me, I don't care that your premiums are going up. The vast and overwhelming majority of Americans who are affected by the ACA are having their lives improved by it.

[thombergeron]

I did not do the exchange in WA, don't want to tell them all my private stuff. My health plan has been cancelled, I was 345/mo for a 2K deductible, 7k total out of pocket policy that I really liked. The plan they said is the best replacement is a 5K deductible, 6.3K total OOP but 520 a month!! That is nearly 200 increase for a huge deductible. Looking at my typical healthcare bills of around 4K, it was cheaper to go Gold at 750 per month. But I am out over 4K more each year, that is 15 to 20 less Tgirl visits I can make, that does not sound healthy.

I just took a closer look at this. The math you've presented here is pretty bizarre, but are you actually saying that we should feel badly for you because you will have $4000 fewer dollars to spend on prostitutes next year?

Edit: And another thing, you refused to use the exchange because you're a paranoid whackjob, and now you're bitching at the President because your insurance carrier is ripping you off? You're a fucking libertarian, and you're scared of market-based competition? It is a documented fact that carriers are misrepresenting the savings you can find by just shopping around a little. Get a second quote, doofus.

[thombergeron]

Anyone who voted for Obama because they believed what he said about the Affordable Health Care act, and I fall into this unfortunate group, has fallen for the biggest sucker punch in the history of mankind.

The AHCA is Obama the socialist's wealth re-distribution plan come to life, and it will hurt the middle class most.

I can only hope that all Democrats will join me in renouncing their democratic affiliations and vote strictly Republican going forward.

Weren't you just whining at me the other day that the Democratic Party is in thrall to the big banks? Now they're socialist wealth redistributors? How does that work?

And it's the ACA, genius. Or, if you're not into the whole brevity thing, the PPACA. And the GOP's approval rating is 22%, the lowest it has ever been. Republicans don't even vote strictly Republican anymore.