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01-05-2014 #31
Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
Well I am not Jewish and I take offence at Benedict's remarks. Taking a few extremists and tarring a whole people or nation. Pretty slim evidence though not untypical of the "anti zionists"
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01-05-2014 #32
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Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
So if a Christian or a Muslim is particularly offended by something negative about their respective religions means what? You think you get special treatment?
You were crying about a certain level of harshness and the use of "evolving" to say that it needs to be discounted because it may or may not be empirically provable. What is the point of writing an opinion piece at all? Then there would be very little one could write in the realm of international relations and security because a lot of if hinges on what MAY happen if certain conditions continue or change, rather than what IS happening under static conditions.
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01-05-2014 #33
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Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
I don't mind if you block me, I would rather not converse with a guy who thinks it's okay for one group to be supremacist. Especially when the same guy claims to be against racism and supremacism in other nations and ethnicities.
Please block me from reading my posts. I'll gladly ignore you too. In fact, I'll start right now!
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01-05-2014 #34
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Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
What the articles say is different from the conclusions you draw from them. You have said that Jewish people believe non-Jews are animals. How is it that I have met thousands of Jews, had intimate conversations with many of them, spent more than a dozen years in a synagogue and never heard this? This must be an aberrant view of extremists and not something a significant number of Jews believe.
Of course you are anti-semitic. This thread has been here for weeks and nobody implied that any of the posters are anti-semitic until you came on here making claims about "chosen people" and Jews believing non-Jews are sub-human.
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01-05-2014 #35
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Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
I've rebutted every serious attempt at an argument you've made. A lot hinges on what may happen. But do you know what they call it when people speculate about the future? Prediction. Prognostication. You can make this same argument about any nation if you are not bound by description and can instead indict people and nations for what may come to pass.
If a Muslim or Christian feels members of their religion are being demonized by a bigot, and they express their objections, I think most would tend to empathize with them. There was a thread a while back where a moron like yourself was expressing vitriol towards Muslims and nobody agreed with him. What you have said about Jewish people is not mere criticism, it consists of hyperbolic lies.
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01-05-2014 #36
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Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
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01-06-2014 #37
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Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
And yet as I have pointed out in other posts some of the most tenacious, indeed vicious critics of Israel have been Israelis. If you have read the literature you will know that the Labour party dominated Israel from 1948 to the elections in 1977, that the British Labour Party supported it because it was a fellow member of the Socialist international and there was a view that Israel in its early days was -dare I say it- an 'evolving' socialist state -ever heard of a Kibbutz? The concept of Moshav? Yes, the governments of Israel since 1977 have for the most part had their roots in the anti-Socialist revisionist movements of Jabotinsky, and yes Avraham Stern was an admirer of Mussolini -all that tells you is that it is possible to be a Jew and be a socialist, a fascist, a liberal, a nationalist, a serial killer, an entrepreneur -heavens, just like everyone else. The singularity you are searching for in 'Jewish' society doesn't exist, not in Israel, not in the USA or anywhere else.
And yes it is perfectly right to criticise the Netanyahu government for its policies toward the Bedouin of the Negev, West Bank settlements, hypocrisy on nuclear weapon in Iran, and so on. But you can't dismiss the entire country and it is not written in stone that Israel will forever be ruled by extremists. Israel doesn't have the political leaders it deserves, because the best minds in Israel don't go into politics but business, science, the arts -we are suffering in the UK from a paucity of intelligence in our own politicians, it is hardly unique to Israel.
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01-06-2014 #38
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Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
There are democratically elected governments in Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and Turkey if you class the latter as a Middle Eastern state; no more perfect or imperfect than Israel where a party can become part of the government with less than 10% of the vote on a low turnout. There is nothing democratic at all about Israel's occupation of the West Bank.
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01-06-2014 #39
Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
I stand corrected. Thanks Stavros - though I would exclude Turkey.
However I don't think democratic is a word that is relevant to the occupation. I see where you're coming from though.
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01-06-2014 #40
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Re: Is Israel an evolving facist state?
I should also have included Iran. Not sure what your query is on democracy on the West Bank which as far as the current Israeli government is concerned is part of Israel which means there is no occupation. If it isn't occupied but part of Israel then Israel's democracy should apply to the whole area; it doesn't.
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