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    Where do I start?

    One of my first jobs out of college I worked for a Federal Gov't Contractor and I began to realize very quickly why we are in the financial troubles we are today, simply put we do not do things right the first time.
    Very often my employer would do something at the Federal Gov't request only to find out that it did not work and the Gov't would pay us more money to fix the issue.
    It literally made my head spin as tax payer at the gobs of money the Federal Gov't wasted on a daily basis that could be put to better use elsewhere and was one of the reasons I left that job.

    I remember one project my employer won was upgrading a certain piece of military hardware, the old piece came in and we would strip it down to its bare bones and rebuild it.
    In the tear down process it was not uncommon to damage a certain part, in fact it was understood that it would occasionally happen and we would do our best to minimize it.
    When we did damage that piece, we had two options, one was to repair it which cost around $2000 and the other was to replace it, which cost around $12,000.

    Each time I would go to the on-site Gov't inspectors and request to repair the part and each time that request would be denied and I would be authorize to replace the part as he/she (the Federal Gov't Inspector) did not want to assume the risk that down the road the repair could fail, even though the repair met the same stringent standards as the replacement part and that was under a Republican Administration (supposed to be fiscally conservative).

    The Federal Gov't does not reward doing the right things, instead we reward doing the wrong things, because nobody wants to take responsibility.

    The funny part was that my employer also upgraded the same piece of military hardware for Foreign Gov't and when we damaged that part during the tear down process each and every time the Foreign Gov't would approve the repair and not the replacement as the repair was cheaper and just as good as the replacement in every way.

    Another anecdote, we spend (read waste) all kinds of money on things that do not even serve the average US citizen. For example, the House of Representatives has a full fledged gym that requires money each years to maintain and upgrade. A good friend of mine is an aide to Rep. Ryan a fiscal conservative and my buddy told me a while ago how Rep. Ryan uses that Gym all the time and one would think that being fiscally conservative with the people's money would dictate closing the Gym and using the people's money in a more fiscally conservative fashion.

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    Good argument for not contracting jobs to the private sector. Another example is Rumsfeld's partial privatization of the military: it used to be that soldiers on KP duty peeled potatoes and cooked, but now we spend a lot of money contracting that job out to the private sector. It requires extra personnel, extra accommodations and transport. On the bright side, you have a job and it pays better than combat duty does.


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    Default Re: What would you do if crazed fundamentalist republicans took over the country

    Quote Originally Posted by Silcc69 View Post
    How many of your folks are lining up to legalize weed and prostitution? The government tells these girls that they can't sell there body and I see no republicans campaigning for escort rights LOL. Granted I don't think any politician would.
    Lol...not my folks, I'm about as far from being republican as you can get...


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    Most of the GOP and many dem's are out of their minds.I would move full time instead of part time to Costa Rica.



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    This is very interesting. A must listen. Check it out, just listened to it earlier this morning. Good comedy too.

    http://www.cracked.com/podcast/the-m...yndon-johnson/



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    I really can't believe some of the posts in this thread. The country is 17 TRILLION in debt and the Tea Party is the scariest thing you can imagine.

    I consider myself a member of the Tea Party and I am for balanced budgets, decreased entitlements, free enterprise, and personal responsibility. I suppose I am naive, but I don't see anything all that controversial.

    I would be willing to bet that if we put forward a list of Sarah Palin's beliefs without her name attached that a majority of people even on this board would agree with her. From all accounts she seemed to do a fairly good job as Alaska's governor, and fought Republican corruption while a member of Alaska' oil and gas commission.

    I imagine that she has a lot more in common with all of us board members than we would like to admit. She worked her way through college, has worked on Alaskan fishing boats, and her husband worked in the oil fields. How many of us would have the patience to raise a Down's Syndrome baby. I think that some caricature on SNL is the truth and we do no independent investigation. I bring up Sarah Palin because she has become the new boogeyman to those on the Left, and was cited several times in the above thread.


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    We are a government of, by and for the people. We believe in and enacted social insurance programs like social security, medicare etc. (things you call entitlements). It’s what government is supposed to do.

    If you recall, Clinton was in fact balancing the budget (the deficit was zero). He was paying down on the debt. The big issue in the Bush vs Gore election was what to do with the "surplus". Gore’s proposal was continue to balance the budget, keep paying down on the debt and save what’s paid in for social security in a “lock box” for that specific purpose. Bush declared the surplus belonged to the people and proposed to give it back, mostly to the wealthy. Bush won. Do you remember how much of the surplus you got back?
    Do you remember the president who doubled the debt, never balanced the budget and kept the cost of two wars off the budget? Hint: His middle initial is W.

    Yes, we should balance the budget, which means each fiscal year we should make sure our revenues are greater than or equal to our costs; i.e. each fiscal year the deficit should be less than or equal to zero. (If the revenues exceed the cost, we put that remainder toward the debt). The current administration has fought to bring us out of the worst recession ever (inherited from the previous administration) and has cut the deficit in half. Not zero, but we’re going in the right direction. The debt is a long term woe. It’s no emergency. But we can’t keep running up deficits. Shutting the government down did not save us any money. In fact it cost us. Our credit rating goes down, we have to pay more interest on our debt. Interest on 17 trillion dollars is nothing to sneeze at. So thank you Tea Party for fucking us up the ass again.

    We are the government. We need to balance our budget and pay on our debt. We also need to look after the health and the well being of our elderly and our poor. You want to cut a budget, cut the military. You want to cut an entitlement, cut the entitlements to big business and factory farmers. Food stamps aren’t the problem. Social security is not the problem (just raise the fuckin’ cap). The problem is whiny little assholes who selfishly refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of the legislative process and threaten to ruin our credit and our economy if they can’t get their way by ordinary democratic means.


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    Default Re: What would you do if crazed fundamentalist republicans took over the country

    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    Bush declared the surplus belonged to the people and proposed to give it back, mostly to the wealthy. Bush won. Do you remember how much of the surplus you got back?
    Keeping on the point of wealth inequality, this vid covers it nicely. The discrepancies between the perceived, actual and ideal scenarios are quite alarming. However, I suspect a survey in the UK would produce similar results ...




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    You do realize that Sarah Palin BELIEVES for a FACT that the reason the default scare and Gov't shutdown happened...is the blame of Obama for NOT taking military action on Syria.

    Sarah Palin also does not know American history, clearly. Her words ---> ( "He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed." --Sarah Palin, botching the history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, June 3, 2011. )

    She has a BA in communication with an emphasis in journalism. Attended 4 different colleges AND to finally attain her BA, she entered a beauty pageant, played the flute, finished 3rd, received the Miss Congeniality Award and a college scholarship. ( Yet people believe she is intelligent and the right person to have in Washington )

    These are just a few of her ludicrous political positions...

    - opposed to reformed healthcare. That it would lead to a bureaucratic rationing of care which, in her own words, described using the term "death panels". Her words ---> "The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil." –-Sarah Palin, in a message posted on Facebook about Obama's health care plan, Aug. 7, 2009 ...Another interesting quote ---> "We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn't that ironic?" --Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada's single-payer health care system, despite having demonized such government-run programs as socialized medicine that will lead to death-panel-like rationing, March 6, 2010

    - Opposes Same-sex marriage, and abortion to include rape, incest, and embryonic stem cells.

    - For capital punishment
    ( Fact - For a single convict to be put to death costs more then to keep him/her in prison or even help them by putting them in rehab. )

    - She supports creationism during lessons on evolution in public schools. ( Religion should not be a subject in the education system. I am all for math, sciences, history, and art, but not religion. Especially if she wants it taught "side by side" with factual sciences. )

    She is a self described "Bible-Believing Christian". Also funny thing, she sincerely believes that we live in the "end times" and the "2nd Coming" is due soon ( within a year or two ). So with that known to all of us...why should she be elected for any office, and vote on important issues concerning WE AMERICANS, when it doesn't concern her if she believes her beliefs are true?

    She knows they aren't true, that's why people like her should not hold public positions, let alone make important life changing decisions for all Americans including you and myself.

    I leave you with these fun quotes by Sarah Palin...enjoy.

    "'Refudiate,' 'misunderestimate,' 'wee-wee'd up.' English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!'" --a Tweet sent by Sarah Palin in response to being ridiculed for inventing the word "refudiate," proudly mistaking her illiteracy for literary genius, July 18, 2010

    "But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies." --Sarah Palin, after being asked how she would handle the current hostilities between the two Koreas, interview on Glenn Beck's radio show, Nov. 24, 2010

    "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border." --Sarah Palin, explaining why Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, interview with CBS's Katie Couric, Sept. 24, 2008

    "As we work and sightsee on America's largest island, we'll get to view more majestic bears, so now is a good time to draw attention to the political equivalent of the species." --Sarah Palin, referring to Kodiak Island in Alaska, even though Hawaii is America's biggest island, July 19, 2010

    "Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesn't it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate." --a Tweet by Sarah Palin, which she quickly removed after being ridiculed for inventing the word "refudiate," July 18, 2010

    "Peaceful New Yorkers, pls refute the Ground Zero mosque plan if you believe catastrophic pain caused @ Twin Towers site is too raw, too real." --a second Tweet by Sarah Palin, which she also removed after misusing the word "refute," July 18, 2010

    "'Refudiate,' 'misunderestimate,' 'wee-wee'd up.' English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!'" --a follow-up Tweet by Sarah Palin, proudly mistaking her illiteracy for literary genius, July 18, 2010


    This is what bothers me. Most of the American people are not well informed enough or even have people skills well enough to read people and LISTEN to what they say, not just "hear" but "listen". The "understanding" and "comprehension" of who these people really are.

    Just so you all know...that if any of these pillocks attain any more political power...your beloved tranny porn ( of which I love making for you all and being a part of ) will go straight down the shitter. Not just porn itself, but because Transgender people will end up in camps, imprisoned, forced to change back by the power of a "god"...you name it, it could happen.

    Just look back at history and you will see that this has happened to ANYONE who is NOT a rich, white person.

    But I do believe that the American people know and understand the implications of this person and her cohorts gaining anymore power. As I said before, a few posts back, that this being a much more enlightened era in human history and that we have great leaders and teachers to guide us towards greater knowledge and truth through reason and science.


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