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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    They don't shoot what they want, they shoot what makes money which is usually what customers/fans want to see.
    I would guess Joey shoots what he wants AND that it's what customers/fans want to see...that's usually how it works for people in any field who have been around for a long time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    I would guess Joey shoots what he wants AND that it's what customers/fans want to see...that's usually how it works for people in any field who have been around for a long time.

    Of course. He shoots what/how he wants and that's why it works. Does it work for everybody? Of course not - but it's profitable, successful, gets great reviews and has people wanting more.



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    Quote Originally Posted by christianxxx View Post
    reading this thread where Eva Cassini and Franklin rip on Joey Silvera and his directing & producing abilities is the most ironically funny fucking thing I have seen in a long long long time.
    Im not ripping on him. I just told the story of my 2nd experience with him. I love modeling for him, don't get me wrong, but I wish in retrospect that I didn't have the cat whiskers.

    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    I think it's cool. That's what makes Joey a maestro, he gives the impression of looking like he doesn't know what he's doing sometimes but when he focuses on something it works and he sits in that edit suit and makes it perfect.
    He's great. I just wish in retrospect that I didn't have the cat whiskers because the rest of the outfit didn't really match to look like a "kitty". The shoot Jamie and I did for him where I have the whole kitty get-up, whiskers, nose, ears, worked well.

    This one... no nose, no ears...kinda makes me look a bit like a Vaudevillian lol.



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    no you were 100 percent ripping on him. Franklin posts his usual bullshit nonsense, and the next post is from you saying "well said friend"


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    Quote Originally Posted by christianxxx View Post
    no you were 100 percent ripping on him. Franklin posts his usual bullshit nonsense, and the next post is from you saying "well said friend"
    1. Read my whole post.

    2. Re-read my whole post, so that you comprehend.

    3. Re-re-read.....


    - Ok, perhaps I should have been more "EXACT" with what I was referencing.

    - The reason I said "Well said friend"...is because of what he said about Grooby and SMC. That they listen to their customers and take feedback.

    - It is because of THIS board, that I have gotten in contact with many girls to shoot with in the near future.


    Also...if you read what I say AFTER I say "Well said friend", you actually DO see what I say in reference to and WHY I said that.


    That is all I said. I never ripped on Joey. Only thing I said about Joey was that he was quite indecisive about the make up, and made a decision that felt like more of a "wingin it" thing.


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    Wait a minute. So when Joey shoots brazilian girls he also shoots them at his house?



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    Quote Originally Posted by RallyCola View Post
    dude...the fantasy is about fucking! if you have a fantasy about meeting a girl, wooing her and having useless banter, you really need to get out more. put down the mouse and have an actual interpersonal relationship with a physical person that you can reach out and touch.

    the farce of most set ups is stupid because you know these 2 people were hired to fuck on camera...it isn't any semblance of reality and so contrived, that it is useless. porn watching is NOT like watching a feature film from hollywood where the point is eye candy and not to produce cum.

    regarding skinamax...that is hardly ignorant because it seems as if you want senseless story more than fucking so simulated sex on skinamax should suffice.

    i am not saying that no story should ever be included...things like transromantic dvds are refreshing at times, but ultimately, you are quite erroneous if you regard a director/producer that avoids contrived storylines as talentless.

    ya know what Frankie...you talk way too much about how big of a porn consumer you are. Why not re-direct some of those funds towards directing your own dvd. I am sure all of the producers you are in such contact with, would be willing to release a dvd that you arranged, shot, edited, packaged and most importantly bank-rolled, because i must say, with all the criticisms you level, you must be able to produce an academy award winning porn..i mean it should be able to sweep the AVNs and should transcend the sex and win more oscars Ben-Hur, Titanic and LotR:tRotK combined.
    Damn it! You don't get it all at.

    Role-play(story based) porn is about the sex and STORY. It's totally unrelated to skinamax. The top porn companies like Brazzers and Naughty America shoot this type of porn. It's why many of their members join their sites. In fact the fantasy is Naughty America's main slogan. Yes, your comment about skinamax was very ignorant.

    Many popular Trannsexual sites and DVDs like American Tranny, TS Seduction, Transsexual Babysitters, etc are mostly role-play porn. To say it is about getting an academy award or belonging at skinamax is so ignorant.

    Gonzo porn doesn't require talent. Get two people in the room to fuck. Anybody can do that. It doesn't take talent to tell two people to just fuck.

    If a person's fantasy is all about fucking then that's what gonzo porn is for. What you're describing is gonzo porn and nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Good god. It didn't take you long to start with this rubbish again did it. They don't shoot what they want, they shoot what makes money which is usually what customers/fans want to see. You might think you know the industry but I've told you many times, you assert what you want as to thinking what everyone else wants.
    Joey's stuff is awesome - he gets great performances from the models - and his style has always been to ask some personal information (which is what many people want - a little perceived reality).

    Stop it with stating what YOU want is what everyone wants. It isn't. You are wrong. Again.
    Don't falsely quote me. I don't think everyone wants what I want. I've NEVER said that. READ WHAT I SAID INSTEAD OF MAKING UP THE FIRST THING THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.

    Most companies don't care about what people want to see. Did you not see my thread about Tomcat refusing to shoot Joanna Jet for TS Seduction? You should know that Joanna is one of the best tops in the business, and has a huge fan base. A fool would tell Joanna and her fans no.

    I like the SMC sites. They produce good quality porn. However, they won't shoot Celeste. Isa told me that Celeste is a flake. Celeste is one of the most popular TS stars. You know this because she made plenty of money for Grooby. SMC is hurting themselves for not trying to book Celeste.

    YOU think Joey content is awesome. Not everyone feels the same way. Joey became popular in TS porn because he was one of the first guys to shoot it. Even if you didn't like gonzo porn, Joey's porn was your only option. Being one of the few options gave Joey an advantage. Now there are more companies shoot far better porn than Joey has ever and will ever make.

    Fans don't always buy scenes because that's what they actually want. Some fans buy scenes because that's their only option to watch certain girls. I know plenty of guys who hate anal porn, but they like the popular anal star name Kelly Divine. Most of her content is anal so they buy it only because that's their only option to watch her.

    Let's look at TS porn. Yasmin Lee mostly works with TS Seduction. If you like Yasmin Lee, but dislike TS Seduction then you got a problem. You can either watch the girl you like by buying a TS Seduction membership, or you can decide not to buy a membership thus being unable to watch Yasmin.

    Why do you think that people in the porn industry deserve praise and that no one should criticize their work? Who made you God?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey View Post
    Franklin is an idiot (common knowledge, I know). Joey Silvera is the greatest thing to ever happen to shemale porn videos. His style is phenomenal, which is why he is the most successful shemale porn producer ever.
    His style isn't phenomenal. Hell. it's not his style Every director who shoots gonzo porn shoots it the same way. He isn't doing anything different than any gonzo director. They're all one in the same. Watch Jules Jordan's movies. Jordan's gonzo flicks are just like Joey's movies.

    His style(not actually his style) had nothing to do with his success. He was one of the first guys to shoot TS porn. He was one of a few options back in the day. That's why he was successful. He didn't have any competition. Customers didn't have any options when looking for TS porn. It's no different than seeing Christian in most TS films because there are very few guys who can do it. So we're stuck with a very boring guy who has no chemistry with the girls on camera. Hopefully Giovanni(has chemistry with the girls) will start to get more work and we can see less boring Christian on camera.

    Nobody is an idiot for disliking a director and a certain style. I guess people would consider me an idiot for disliking TS on G porn. Hell, I know most people in the straight company hate me for disliking genetic girls in anal porn.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKLIN View Post
    Don't falsely quote me. I don't think everyone wants what I want. I've NEVER said that. READ WHAT I SAID INSTEAD OF MAKING UP THE FIRST THING THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.

    Most companies don't care about what people want to see. Did you not see my thread about Tomcat refusing to shoot Joanna Jet for TS Seduction? You should know that Joanna is one of the best tops in the business, and has a huge fan base. A fool would tell Joanna and her fans no.
    Joanna either isn't profitable for them (possibly as she has her own site) - or isn't requested as much as other talent, or the company has a personal issue with her. Either way that's their choice, there are models I refused to work with for various reasons but it's not just an unconsidered decision which you seem to think.

    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKLIN View Post
    I like the SMC sites. They produce good quality porn. However, they won't shoot Celeste. Isa told me that Celeste is a flake. Celeste is one of the most popular TS stars. You know this because she made plenty of money for Grooby. SMC is hurting themselves for not trying to book Celeste.
    Celeste hasn't flaked for us, so we're happy to work with her and she makes us money. Other models who have flaked for us, we will not work with again because THEY HAVE COST/LOST US MONEY. You do not get it, it's a business.

    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKLIN View Post
    YOU think Joey content is awesome. Not everyone feels the same way. Joey became popular in TS porn because he was one of the first guys to shoot it. Even if you didn't like gonzo porn, Joey's porn was your only option. Being one of the few options gave Joey an advantage. Now there are more companies shoot far better porn than Joey has ever and will ever make.
    As you stated, "not everyone feels the same way" - it's an opinion and most of Joey's stuff outsells many others and gets rated better - because it simply delivers what people want.

    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKLIN View Post
    Fans don't always buy scenes because that's what they actually want. Some fans buy scenes because that's their only option to watch certain girls. I know plenty of guys who hate anal porn, but they like the popular anal star name Kelly Divine. Most of her content is anal so they buy it only because that's their only option to watch her.
    What a stupid and ill-conceived argument. There are plenty of scenes, plenty of talent and we know very well that people choose to buy exactly what they "actually want", while a few might buy everything from model XYZ, if she fails to deliver then they'll stop buying.


    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKLIN View Post
    Let's look at TS porn. Yasmin Lee mostly works with TS Seduction. If you like Yasmin Lee, but dislike TS Seduction then you got a problem. You can either watch the girl you like by buying a TS Seduction membership, or you can decide not to buy a membership thus being unable to watch Yasmin.
    There you go. So what's your point? Put your money elsewhere - or don't. You have that choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKLIN View Post
    Why do you think that people in the porn industry deserve praise and that no one should criticize their work?
    I think people should be critical and give praise, where it counts. What I loathe is what you continue to do, is to suggest that you know better than anyone else, you state facts without backing them up, you know actually little to nothing about the actual business. You're whole argument and basis for what you say, is immature and childlike, you believe what you like, is what others "should" like and you refuse to believe the facts that are laid out for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKLIN View Post
    His style isn't phenomenal. Hell. it's not his style Every director who shoots gonzo porn shoots it the same way. He isn't doing anything different than any gonzo director. They're all one in the same. Watch Jules Jordan's movies. Jordan's gonzo flicks are just like Joey's movies.

    His style(not actually his style) had nothing to do with his success. He was one of the first guys to shoot TS porn. He was one of a few options back in the day. That's why he was successful. He didn't have any competition. Customers didn't have any options when looking for TS porn. It's no different than seeing Christian in most TS films because there are very few guys who can do it. So we're stuck with a very boring guy who has no chemistry with the girls on camera. Hopefully Giovanni(has chemistry with the girls) will start to get more work and we can see less boring Christian on camera.

    Nobody is an idiot for disliking a director and a certain style. I guess people would consider me an idiot for disliking TS on G porn. Hell, I know most people in the straight company hate me for disliking genetic girls in anal porn.
    You're an idiot.



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