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    The American government in its present state has only been around for about 97 years. Before that we had the situation which we are living with right now and we managed to survive. It is not the government that made this country what it is today but the American people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyMike View Post
    The American government in its present state has only been around for about 97 years. Before that we had the situation which we are living with right now and we managed to survive. It is not the government that made this country what it is today but the American people.
    Hopefully there won't be too much collateral damage in the recovery process.



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    http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/...ication-party/

    "If we cave to their madness, we may unravel our system of government, something one might have thought conservatives would have opposed. Except these people are not conservatives. They’re vandals.

    This time, the elephant must go down. And if possible, it must be so wounded it does not get up for a long time to come."



    Interesting article.



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    Too bad it didn't shut down 11 trillion dollars ago.


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    Big Business Backs Obama, Fights Government Shutdown:




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    Ummmm......

    If the US really wants to attack the terrorists who are bent on destroying the fabric and wealth of the country, should they make a start by bombing Congress? Just asking.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by robertlouis View Post
    Ummmm......

    If the US really wants to attack the terrorists who are bent on destroying the fabric and wealth of the country, should they make a start by bombing Congress? Just asking.....
    Pretty sure not everyone voted for the shutdown...but we do know who actually did.



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    According to republicans only about 30 republicans want the shutdown. Also according to the reports if John Boehner would just bring the clean CR up for a vote it would pass immediately.

    Republicans also held a meeting with Ted Cruz yesterday I believe and asked him what his strategy and endgame for the shutdown was. He either did not have one or tried to change the subject of conversation. It also seems that he did this 'filibuster' just to gain popularity at the expense of his party. Needless to say they are not happy with him right now.

    You just have to love how democracy works. You pass things in the Senate, the the House, it is signed into law by the President, and then upheld as constitutional by the Supreme Court, and subsequently becomes the law no if ands or buts. Then to remove, reform, or repeal said law you must do the exact same thing, unless you are the republicans and say if I can't get my way I will just shut the whole thing down.

    The Republicans are like the crew of the Titanic that locked away all of the 3rd class passengers steerage to assure that only the 1st class wealthy passengers get the lifeboats, after deliberately ramming the iceberg because they don't like the Captain.

    The Democrats have already negotiated the budget as well back in April when this debate is to be held. The original budget was $1.2 Trillion, the Paul Ryan budget that the Republicans want is $1.09 Trillion. What is the budget now after the Democrats cut it, $986 Billion, I would say that is a compromise and a cut if you ask me or anyone who knows how math works.

    Also why if the Democrats won the election why do they have to give ground, they control the Senate and the White House, in both they won the popular and the electoral votes. In the House the Republicans did not win the popular vote but thanks to gerrymandering they won the electoral vote and now control the House.

    The only reason I can see as to why the Republicans don't want ACA or 'Obamacare' (OH NO SOCIALISM) is that they are scared people might actually like it. Since it has past I have read many stories of how people have liked ACA because of the treatment and or costs they have been receiving. Also since October 1st I have read at least 2-4 articles about very conservative republicans who hate Obamacare and then did a complete 180 after receiving care under it, and the costs that they have to pay.

    "Many wonder why the US is doing this to its economy or why healthcare is not an option for everyone" Joyce Karam Al-Hayat(Arabic Newspaper based in London) speaking on the confusion about how the US government has shutdown compared to the dysfunction of her own country of Lebanon in regards to passing a budget,and healthcare.



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