Streaming Only Sites... Why?

[nysprod]

Thank you! & yea that's a natural way to get more exposure to your cam I suppose. Since my sets went up I've been getting a few LJ members who say they loved me on shemaleyum/shemalexxx, and some were already regulars before I did any porn. They said they were on Yum & were like "Hey I know her already" I imagine that type of thing drives more people to visit me on cam.

Typically though, that kind of promotional attitude isn't going to help you as a cammer I don't think... Like you might as well just cam more to get exposure. Like even doing porn, if I spent all the time that went into the set on camming instead, I'd have made more $$$. Yea it's got me more exposure, but I already have a surplus of members on livejasmin. Plus, pre-porn, like the only way to see me naked was through my cam, so I wonder how many wouldn't pay for a show now because there's video of me out there.

The more video out there, the better, if it's used to drive traffic to a cam...and it's not just about the show, people can catch free clips all the time, there's no putting that genie back into the bottle...it's the interaction.

[Michelle Firestone]

Ya but if I already have more than enough members to keep me in private for the time I put in online, then as a cammer, I don't truly NEED the extra exposure to meet financial goals. I want more exposure to progress myself as a pornstar, not as a cammer... Don't read that the wrong way tho.. I'll always be a cammer too & I'm passionate about both things.

[Ben in LA]

They all do...all these producers upload to Pornhub...and what happens as soon as you click on something? Live Jasmin pops up. They're driving traffic to live sites.

I can't stand those pop ups...but they've gotta make that money...

[nysprod]

Ya but if I already have more than enough members to keep me in private for the time I put in online, then as a cammer, I don't truly NEED the extra exposure to meet financial goals. I want more exposure to progress myself as a pornstar, not as a cammer... Don't read that the wrong way tho.. I'll always be a cammer too & I'm passionate about both things.

Glad to see you're doing well, and continued success!

[LilyRox]

I think camming will progress to actually being a live sex show...like what you see in a video, just live...and there will be interaction between the performers and audience.

It already is in some ways. I've seen professional cam set ups by pornstars that use camera guys to shoot them. Though these were solo scenes they are as professional as possible* and they would interact with the viewers. The only difference is it wasn't a group sex and was more toy and positioning stuff, but still the same idea. There are many problems with this though.

No matter how good technology becomes and how good webcams get, the equipment set ups will never be as good as a edited material. Even if you have multiple camera guys shit happens when you're live (preparing for anal), you can't edit out the stuff, and that stuff can sometimes dull the scene. Another thing you have to think about is the camera guy having nearly no interaction during the ENTIRE show. This is a huge problem. It's not like you can shoot a couple mins, cut, tell your model what to do and continue rolling. It all has to be live and on cue with the model basically ignoring the camera guy the entire time (unless it's going to be one of those douche camera guys that doesn't shut the fuck up when the camera's rolling). The other main huge thing to think about is nervousness. When you shoot a scene with a model and she's shy because of camera's or the camera guy you can edit that shit out later, you can't do that live. Every sec of it is going to be caught on camera, every stutter and mess up (which by the way is probably in a studio and not the comfort and privacy of your own home).

I think it might be something tried more in the future, but to be honest live quality can never be as good as edited. That goes with anything. Music, Photography, Television, etc. When it comes to pirating, live is the only real edge against it. When it comes time to do stuff like this in the industry, it won't because producer's in the industry want to do it, it will be because they HAVE to do it if they want to make any real money. It will come to the point where a lower quality of shooting live scenes makes more money than high quality edited porn just because of the simple fact of not only pirating, but the thousands of other porn companies competing head to head in the high quality edited porn industry.

Supply > Demand

[dc_guy_75]

if you donate >$1000, you get a prop from the scene, the outfits, or a hardcopy Blu-Ray signed by the performers...

I haven't bought a blue-ray since the last time I bought a stamp: 4 or 5 years ago.

Good idea though.

There should be a "Netlix or HboGo: for porn, all the porn you want for a flat fee.

[Wendy Summers]

Thank you! & yea that's a natural way to get more exposure to your cam I suppose. Since my sets went up I've been getting a few LJ members who say they loved me on shemaleyum/shemalexxx, and some were already regulars before I did any porn. They said they were on Yum & were like "Hey I know her already" I imagine that type of thing drives more people to visit me on cam.

Typically though, that kind of promotional attitude isn't going to help you as a cammer I don't think... Like you might as well just cam more to get exposure. Like even doing porn, if I spent all the time that went into the set on camming instead, I'd have made more $$$. Yea it's got me more exposure, but I already have a surplus of members on livejasmin. Plus, pre-porn, like the only way to see me naked was through my cam, so I wonder how many wouldn't pay for a show now because there's video of me out there.

So I did & continue to do porn b/c I want to. It's way more fun than camming, it interests me, and it challenges me in different ways than camming.

Promoting webcam properly can work amazingly well, but it's different than promoting porn. You're right: if folks simply want to see you naked they'll find your porn, but the best webcam models get that webcam isn't about looks, it's about interaction - about forging a connection with your viewer whether for 1 minute or 1 hour. A free free pics showcasing your looks and personality can do wonders. Brief videos showcasing your personality can help too. Don't discount the value of pics of you in your daily life.

Another thing - if you're not doing it already, you should be joining Live Jasmin's affiliate program and make sure any links you provide to your webcam include those codes so you get credit for the traffic you send to them.

[Wendy Summers]

Ya but if I already have more than enough members to keep me in private for the time I put in online, then as a cammer, I don't truly NEED the extra exposure to meet financial goals. I want more exposure to progress myself as a pornstar, not as a cammer... Don't read that the wrong way tho.. I'll always be a cammer too & I'm passionate about both things.

If your utilization rate (portion of time spent in paid chat divided by total time spent on webcam) is greater than 70%, you might want to consider raising your prices. In my experience I've found the break times between paid cam sessions allows me to cam for much longer periods of time. While you will lose some fans with a price increase, the incremental revenue of a price increase should cover the loss and the longer overall webcam time will increase your overall income. This might not be the right path for you, but you might want to see if it makes sense for what you do.

[VictoriaVeil]

Porn and webcam are two totally different beasts - being able to succeed in one doesn't guarantee success in the other. Webcam is hella cheaper to produce, that's for sure.

Werd.

[blackchubby38]

I haven't bought a blue-ray since the last time I bought a stamp: 4 or 5 years ago.

Good idea though.

There should be a "Netlix or HboGo: for porn, all the porn you want for a flat fee.

I totally agree with you. I also think there should be a Itunes for porn. Where you can purchase individual scenes and/or entire movies for a fair price.

Streaming-only video is the sole reason that I've never joined TGirl Pinups, even though their content looks pretty great. I understand that site owners have to protect against piracy and tube uploading, but I always pay for memberships, and have joined numerous sites multiple times over the years, and don't feel I should be penalized because of the wrong actions of others. I wonder if websites consider the business they are losing because they are streaming only, and weigh it against potential loss from piracy. And if streaming-only/limited download does become the norm all around, I will probably no longer join any websites, and do without.

I feel the same way about streaming-only video and I also understand why its done. I probably would also still sign up for sites if it did become the norm.

But if it does become the norm, than whatever player the site(s) use better work consistently. And if there are issues, then the site's technical support better be able to solve those issues. Instead of just giving you a check list on how you can solve it yourself in the FAQ section. AEBN, I'm looking right at you.