Streaming Only Sites... Why?

[Jericho]

I think camming will progress to actually being a live sex show...like what you see in a video, just live...and there will be interaction between the performers and audience.

You want a live sex show...Go visit Cam4...There's a couple of hundred every week (hell, I've done one or two myself)...And the majority are shite!

[nysprod]

You want a live sex show...Go visit Cam4...There's a couple of hundred every week (hell, I've done one or two myself)...And the majority are shite!

I'm talking about a real producer taking their models live...like a real rock band going on tour vs. a garage band playing the local bar.

That must be right then...The article said so!

To play Devils Advocate for a moment...

Most live cams are shite.
Copy them, edit them, cut to the chase...I'm thinking that's what most consumers of porn want.

But what do i know, I'm just a pervert.

It's really about the interaction, according to what the article seems to be saying...from my own experience, I've looked at some very hot tgirls on chaturbate...problem is, the ones i find hot are from Columbia and they don't speak English...so the interaction is very limited and it gets boring.

[Jericho]

I'm talking about a real producer taking their models live...like a real rock band going on tour vs. a garage band playing the local bar.

Ha, lol, ok, nice analogy, points for that one!

[Michelle Firestone]

Once a system becomes available that either allows streaming only OR download but for limited views (or only when you are a member) that isn't piratable, that is going to become the norm.

That's impossible though. As long as the content is viewable its piratable. Even if there was proprietary hardware & software that was 100% unhackable, people would set up sophisticated telesync studios in their homes to rip it.

The only truly unpiratable alternative that I can imagine would be pre-funded content from a crowdfunding system like kickstarter. A lot of musicians are already doing it with success. There's at least one site out there doing it for porn already, Offbeatr.com, but it looks pretty shitty and there's a lot of unnecessary rules the content creators have to follow.

In the future, I see major porn companies developing their own in-house crowdfunding sites with lots of different options to fund the content, a lot like how the Peace Corps take donations. Peace Corps allows you to donate money to specific projects around the world, specific causes (like HIV, hunger, malaria, war refugees) or it can be a general donation to any/all projects within a specific country, or a straight up contribution to be used for anything.

I bet it will be like that for porn (and all content really) in the future. With porn, I imagine the supporters could fund things like a specific pic/video set that is completely pre-planned out, or choose from different genres/styles that the company produces. Or fund their favorite performers and photo/videographers even.

Then once a goal is reached, the content is created, and distributed to the supporters along with other rewards based on how much they funded. Like, if you donate >$1000, you get a prop from the scene, the outfits, or a hardcopy Blu-Ray signed by the performers. Then lower tiers could a signed poster print of a photo from the set, extra bonus footage in their copy, their name in the credits, or whatever you could think of.

If that became the norm, there would still be piracy, but it wouldn't really matter since the company got the $$$ upfront.

[Jericho]

problem is, the ones i find hot are from Columbia and they don't speak English...so the interaction is very limited and it gets boring.

In that case, you're just going to have to bite the bullet and learn Spanish...You'll have all the interaction you like!

[Michelle Firestone]

I think camming will progress to actually being a live sex show...like what you see in a video, just live...and there will be interaction between the performers and audience.

I've tried to get that going, since you can have couple/group accounts on livejasmin and most other sites, but I've never been able to find someone that I want to let into my home who is professional/reliable enough. I even wanted to get a 3rd person involved to man the camera so it doesn't even feel like a webcam show anymore (but you still get the special interaction). Then set the per minute charge to maximum. The idea being they'll pay max for it since it would be such a rare/professional camshow.

But yea... even if I could get that together, splitting the profit between 3 ppl, even if the camera guy gets less, it probably wouldn't be much better for me than just going solo anyway. It would be cool though.

[nysprod]

I've tried to get that going, since you can have couple/group accounts on livejasmin and most other sites, but I've never been able to find someone that I want to let into my home who is professional/reliable enough. I even wanted to get a 3rd person involved to man the camera so it doesn't even feel like a webcam show anymore (but you still get the special interaction). Then set the per minute charge to maximum. The idea being they'll pay max for it since it would be such a rare/professional camshow.

But yea... even if I could get that together, splitting the profit between 3 ppl, even if the camera guy gets less, it probably wouldn't be much better for me than just going solo anyway. It would be cool though.

Well, I think you Michelle would be a perfect one to take this to a higher level...if you follow the model the article somewhat talked about, you do some regular porn...then what you want is for clips from those scenes uploaded to as many sites as possible...then you're a known porn star and then you go live.

It's like what music is now, where recorded songs are more of a promotional vehicle for live shows...not that there's no money in recorded music, but the real money these days is in touring.

[Ben in LA]

I know for a FACT Kink uploads samples of their clips to tube sites...

[nysprod]

I know for a FACT Kink uploads samples of their clips to tube sites...

They all do...all these producers upload to Pornhub...and what happens as soon as you click on something? Live Jasmin pops up. They're driving traffic to live sites.

[Michelle Firestone]

Well, I think you Michelle would be a perfect one to take this to a higher level...if you follow the model the article somewhat talked about, you do some regular porn...then what you want is for clips from those scenes uploaded to as many sites as possible...then you're a known porn star and then you go live.

It's like what music is now, where recorded songs are more of a promotional vehicle for live shows...not that there's no money in recorded music, but the real money these days is in touring.

Thank you! & yea that's a natural way to get more exposure to your cam I suppose. Since my sets went up I've been getting a few LJ members who say they loved me on shemaleyum/shemalexxx, and some were already regulars before I did any porn. They said they were on Yum & were like "Hey I know her already" I imagine that type of thing drives more people to visit me on cam.

Typically though, that kind of promotional attitude isn't going to help you as a cammer I don't think... Like you might as well just cam more to get exposure. Like even doing porn, if I spent all the time that went into the set on camming instead, I'd have made more $$$. Yea it's got me more exposure, but I already have a surplus of members on livejasmin. Plus, pre-porn, like the only way to see me naked was through my cam, so I wonder how many wouldn't pay for a show now because there's video of me out there.

So I did & continue to do porn b/c I want to. It's way more fun than camming, it interests me, and it challenges me in different ways than camming.