Streaming Only Sites... Why?

[saifan]

Just signed up over at a site that has a new Vaniity scene. I was a member earlier in the year and thought the site was great and the video downloads looked super. signing back up the first thing I noticed was that the site is now streaming only. What a pain in the ass. The Grooby sites are "world class" in the transsexual porn industry and they offer downloads so why do inferior sites think this is an option that they shouldn't offer?

[Ben in LA]

Two words: TUBE SITES.

Bob's Tgirls recently had an update featuring Penny Tyler. No more than two hours after I saw that update on the site, I saw the same video clip on "The Hammie". (It has since been taken down).

Streaming-only makes such actions just a bit more difficult.

[saifan]

Two words: TUBE SITES.

Bob's Tgirls recently had an update featuring Penny Tyler. No more than two hours after I saw that update on the site, I saw the same video clip on "The Hammie". (It has since been taken down).

Streaming-only makes such actions just a bit more difficult.

I understand that yeah, but it's only difficult for the average Joe.

[GroobySteven]

I understand that yeah, but it's only difficult for the average Joe.

And that's the issue Saifan. The average Joe ISN'T downloading and uploading to a tube site. A pirate who makes a living from stealing content and uploading to a tube site does know how to download the content anyway (and a quick google will show you how to do it).
Streaming content in it's current format doesn't work as a deterrant, if anything it pisses people off.
I will put this out there though. Once a system becomes available that either allows streaming only OR download but for limited views (or only when you are a member) that isn't piratable, that is going to become the norm.
Not everybody is like you - and puts some money in the pot every once in a while.

[nysprod]

And that's the issue Saifan. The average Joe ISN'T downloading and uploading to a tube site. A pirate who makes a living from stealing content and uploading to a tube site does know how to download the content anyway (and a quick google will show you how to do it).
Streaming content in it's current format doesn't work as a deterrant, if anything it pisses people off.
I will put this out there though. Once a system becomes available that either allows streaming only OR download but for limited views (or only when you are a member) that isn't piratable, that is going to become the norm.
Not everybody is like you - and puts some money in the pot every once in a while.

There was an interesting (to me, since I really don't know much of anything about the porn business) article in the NY Times yesterday regarding how big camming is getting...they mentioned Live Jasmin with like 30M unique views/month and that cams could be a billion dollar/year industry.

Then the article mentioned Pornhub, which I had never heard of, in the context that producers are loading some of their content to the site with the goal being to drive traffic to cam/adult dating sites.

Point being that producers are branching out to live content because people want it and are paying for it...and obviously, it can't be pirated.

One thing that was said about camming is that the best money is being made by performers who are able to connect with their audience...in other words, it's not just sex...apparently, it's also about companionship.

So maybe live performance is the way to go, especially when there is interaction between performers and their audience.

[Wendy Summers]

So maybe live performance is the way to go, especially when there is interaction between performers and their audience.

Porn and webcam are two totally different beasts - being able to succeed in one doesn't guarantee success in the other. Webcam is hella cheaper to produce, that's for sure.

[Jericho]

Point being that producers are branching out to live content because people want it and are paying for it...and obviously, it can't be pirated.

Of course it can.
If it's on your screen, it can be recorded.

[nysprod]

Of course it can.
If it's on your screen, it can be recorded.

Yes, but as the article said, people want the live interaction and not just a sex show per se.

Porn and webcam are two totally different beasts - being able to succeed in one doesn't guarantee success in the other. Webcam is hella cheaper to produce, that's for sure.

I think camming will progress to actually being a live sex show...like what you see in a video, just live...and there will be interaction between the performers and audience.

[Jericho]

That must be right then...The article said so!

To play Devils Advocate for a moment...

Most live cams are shite.
Copy them, edit them, cut to the chase...I'm thinking that's what most consumers of porn want.

But what do i know, I'm just a pervert.

[maxpower]

Streaming-only video is the sole reason that I've never joined TGirl Pinups, even though their content looks pretty great. I understand that site owners have to protect against piracy and tube uploading, but I always pay for memberships, and have joined numerous sites multiple times over the years, and don't feel I should be penalized because of the wrong actions of others. I wonder if websites consider the business they are losing because they are streaming only, and weigh it against potential loss from piracy. And if streaming-only/limited download does become the norm all around, I will probably no longer join any websites, and do without.