Topping VS Bottom..which is more gay

[Prospero]

Yawn... woke to find this.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[MacShreach]

There are some guys out there, completely straight and only had relations with GGs, and they like the submissive role in the bedroom which may or may not include pegging. Bottoming is just an act. Whether or not you are attracted to only other guys, that is what makes you gay or not gay.

Inside one very limited cultural definition of the term.

[MacShreach]

Kelly-
Thanks for the discussion. I myself consider relations with a tgirl to have pulled me from the straight box out into the bi area, as with the tgirl. I love the femininity of Tgirls, and enjoy them immensely. Although I have watched gay porn, I find I choke up and go cold if the tgirl does not feel feminine, I really doubt I can handle being in bed with a guy.

With that said, if I am with a tgirl that acts fem what we do is not gay. I personally love being topped and it is really the best thing a tgirl can do for me. I am not really dominant in my life, but I am the bread winner and always have the 'father' role of making things happen. To relax, be adored, OK also submitting to her, and getting my brains fucked out can be the most intense high I experience in life. Yes, gender roles are reversed but instead of being a dungeon or porn star experience, it is often the total GFE intimacy. Its odd, I think it makes her 'superfem', the ultimate caring for her man.

In terms of my being a top, I find I much prefer being a top with GG's rarely doing anal but I could live in her pussy.

Exactly; men who enjoy being 'topped' are indulging in a transgender experience that fits one definition of autogynephilia, deriving erotic stimulus from their exploration of a female sexual role.

[MacShreach]

Yawn... woke to find this.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Well, off you go back to sleep.

[MacShreach]

There are two things to remember: the first is that almost everything that is discussed here is regarded by some people as 'gay'.

The second is that the term itself has no standard meaning. It is a political term originally coined by male homosexual political activists, in order to counter the very negative connotations and language adopted by 'straight' society. Even the modern concept of 'homosexual' had no meaning before the middle of the 19th century.

What was constrained before this was NOT affection between males, but buggery, sodomy, cornholing, poopshoot-plugging...you get the drift. Oscar Wilde was not jailed for being in love with a man, but for buggery, and England's anti-sodomy laws were not repealed until the 1960s.

Personally, I like sodomy; I have been sticking me todger up women's arses since my teens. I really don't care what my partner has round the front, as long as she looks, feels and acts soft, warm and feminine. I am not attracted to all women--just glamorous, sexy, hot ones. As for them sticking things in me, errrrr...no, thanks all the same.


I don't really see that what I do is gay, but I accept some people think so (even with a cis-woman), and also that I definitely don't fit exactly into the definition of 'straight'.

But then again, 'straight' just means 'conforming to the accepted behaviour of the dominant social group', something I have never had any great desire to be a part of.

[Prospero]

Exactly. This topic echoes around these (hallowed lol) halls endlessly. Why such hang-ups. Enjoy instead and enough with al the repetitive soul searching.

[Jericho]

Damn...A lot of unseemly arguments going on around here.
Which is more gay, faggots...to argue or to let it go?

[yosi]

I'm curious about this:
if I'm with a TS and we like to top each other , when I top her I'm str8 but when I let her top me suddenly I become gay?

all I know is this: if a TS is a WOMAN , having sex with a WOMAN is NOT gay.

[Jericho]

I'm curious about this:
if I'm with a TS and we like to top each other , when I top her I'm str8 but when I let her top me suddenly I become gay?

all I know is this: if a TS is a WOMAN , having sex with a WOMAN is NOT gay.

It's only gay if she uses her cock.
If she uses a strapon, she can horse-fuck you till yer arse drops out and you're still as straight as the next man...Around here!

[Ananke]

Damn...A lot of unseemly arguments going on around here.
Which is more gay, faggots...to argue or to let it go?

I enjoyed this little altercation...