Ps4 or xbox one and most anticipated games ?

[TGL]

Well, I'm biased in my choice, since I've been working on a game that will be out on both Xbox 360 and Xbox One. So I'm obviously eager to get to try that game on the Xbox One, once it's out

But other than that, I'm a huge fan of the Forza Motorsport series, so I'm really excited about trying the new Forza on Xbox One. I'm really hoping I can use my wheel and pedal set from my 360, but I doubt it :/

Other games of immediate interest are FIFA and GTA V, but those are out on both platforms, so they aren't really having an influence on my choice.

Furthermore, I'm really looking forward to all those TV, Internet and music features that the Xbox One has added. I know it's being flamed a lot for just that, but I'm actually pretty excited about those things. I can see myself using those features a lot!

[GroobyKrissy]

You are mistaken about upgrades voiding your software licenses. Yes, you often have to reactivate after major hardware upgrades, but you don't have to "lie to MS" to do so. You just reactivate by following the prompts in the window that pops up. If for some reason that doesn't work you call the support number, tell them you put in a new CPU, and then the support tech reactivate your license.

I run my games at max settings. What part of this aren't you understanding? Yes I could blow 5 grand and run a system with Quad Nvidia Titans and quintuple my FPS, but the game is still going to look the same, just with framerates well past the perceivable point of diminishing returns. If I'm not a gamer because I have better uses for my money than spending it on components that are completely unnecessary to get visuals in performance way out ahead of anything on a console, then I guess console "gamers" are disqualified from the label by default.

A. Read the EULA of your software. MS may be nice and let you do it because otherwise people would throw a fit, but they are NOT LEGALLY obligated to do so. I've read the EULA word for word on most of the software I buy... have you? Intuit flat out said so when I did my last update and tried to get them to let me use the version of QB I had... They said, read the EULA, which I already knew. It depends on the Customer Service Rep you get and the mood they are in at the time.

B. You don't run your games at max settings unless you are playing them at the highest resolution possible with all texture mapping, lighting, etc. turned on. If you don't have a 2560 monitor, playing games at the highest settings is impossible... it is that simple. Most consumer level graphics cards cannot sustain games at that resolution... it is that simple. Most consumer level processors will be taxed at that level... it is that simple. Honestly, I have a 2560 monitor. If you think gaming at 1920 is awesome... play your flight sim at 2560... the difference is staggering.

C. That is why I differentiate between PC gamers and CONSOLE gamers... the two use different setups. PC gamers, like I already said, care about the SPECS of their systems... that is where the bragging rights are. If you're using core components from 2010... besides your video card... can you really claim to be a " PC gamer"???

[tsmirandameadows]

What constitutes tricking out though? Most of the top of the line components have marginal performance increases for non-marginal increases in cost. Why blow an extra $200 on the GTX model of the latest Nvidia card, when the GT version only has a 6-7% decrease in performance, and none of the games that are available are even going to be demanding enough that that 6-7% performance differential makes a difference?

Specs:
Asus M4A77TD Mobo
AMD Phenom II X4 955 with after market cooler and overclocked to 3.5GHz
4GB Corsair DDR3 1333
XFX Radeon 6870 2GB x 2, with after market coolers and OCed
1TB WD HDD
Coolermaster 650W power supply, I forget which model

Flight Sim Gear
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Combat Rudder Pedals
TrackIR 5

[GroobyKrissy]

It may not be difficult but it requires effort, which at my age and stage in life I no longer have the desire to put in. I don't dispute that a tuned PC will knock spots off a console whilst also being more flexible, but as an entertainment and media hub, which can be discreet in a living room, the PS3, soon to be PS4, is hard to beat.

And on the subject of console reliability, my PS3 has never packed in. XBoxes are another story, RROD etc. ...

My first Xbox RROD 3 days after I bought it. I was so pissed it almost killed console gaming for me. Luckily, Best Buy was very nice about it (or Circuit City... can't remember where I bought it) and replaced it... I had to wait about a week for stock but I was happy they did it for free. Never had any problems after that.

[GroobyKrissy]

Well, I'm biased in my choice, since I've been working on a game that will be out on both Xbox 360 and Xbox One. So I'm obviously eager to get to try that game on the Xbox One, once it's out

But other than that, I'm a huge fan of the Forza Motorsport series, so I'm really excited about trying the new Forza on Xbox One. I'm really hoping I can use my wheel and pedal set from my 360, but I doubt it :/

Other games of immediate interest are FIFA and GTA V, but those are out on both platforms, so they aren't really having an influence on my choice.

Furthermore, I'm really looking forward to all those TV, Internet and music features that the Xbox One has added. I know it's being flamed a lot for just that, but I'm actually pretty excited about those things. I can see myself using those features a lot!

You know, even as a soccer player and fan of the sport, I've never gotten into FIFA games... I LOVE Madden... just never FIFA. I may give the new one a go though. Forza is awesome

[tsmirandameadows]

Who are these PC gamers you speak of who care all about absolute specs and nothing about games or building a killer system within a budget?

And no, I don't have a 2560 res monitor, so in that respect it is not "max settings". But the only performance/quality setting of a game which is monitor dependent is resolution. Everything else you mentioned, i.e. texture quality, lighting, anisotropic filtering, antialiasing, draw distance, etc. are GPU and CPU dependent, and yes I run all of my games with those settings maxed.

[TGL]

You know, even as a soccer player and fan of the sport, I've never gotten into FIFA games... I LOVE Madden... just never FIFA. I may give the new one a go though. Forza is awesome

I have every FIFA game on Xbox 360 since FIFA 08, except for FIFA 10, so again, I'm probably pretty biased in my choice there. It's more a tradition now that I just have to own it, lol.
But of course, they always add some new features that makes you feel you just need to own the new version!

[my my my!]

I'm probably not getting PS4 for a long time but,

I'm looking forward to the ps4 version of GTA 5, Star Wars Battlefront 3 (although i'm probably getting this on PC anyway)

also looking forward to the ps4 entries for new Resident Evil and Silent hill games, maybe some high def remakes. Splinter Cell blacklist looks gorgeous on ps3/pc, so it's interesting if the next one will look just as good.

Battlefield 4 for me is already pre ordered on PC.

Hope the Call of Duty clowns finally take advantage of the new hardware and put out a next gen game with a completely reworked engine with bigger maps.

[GroobyKrissy]

What constitutes tricking out though? Most of the top of the line components have marginal performance increases for non-marginal increases in cost. Why blow an extra $200 on the GTX model of the latest Nvidia card, when the GT version only has a 6-7% decrease in performance, and none of the games that are available are even going to be demanding enough that that 6-7% performance differential makes a difference?

Specs:
Asus M4A77TD Mobo
AMD Phenom II X4 955 with after market cooler and overclocked to 3.5GHz
4GB Corsair DDR3 1333
XFX Radeon 6870 2GB x 2, with after market coolers and OCed
1TB WD HDD
Coolermaster 650W power supply, I forget which model

Flight Sim Gear
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Combat Rudder Pedals
TrackIR 5

OK, now go onto just about any GAMING forum, post those stats, call yourself a GAMER and try to get some bragging rights, and see how well it is received. Honestly, the 4GB of RAM alone is not meeting the recommended specs for most of today's cutting edge PC games.

You have decent graphics cards although you're playing with fire supporting Crossfire cards with a 650W power supply!!!

So, here's the thing. If you're a PC gamer and you care about your system... THE BRAGGING RIGHTS ARE EVERYTHING. That extra cycle... those extra pixels... THAT is what makes a gamer... a gamer. That 6% difference... THAT is the WORLD to a true gamer.

Look, I'm not meaning to be stupid or disparaging about this but it seems to me, you've a gaming hobby. You like Flight Sims. Awesome and more power to you. But, unless you've got a gaming system, I just don't see the point in telling everyone else how terrible consoles are. The next gen console specs SLAY your current system hands down as far as pure computational power goes... am I missing something here or are you going to make me post them side by side...?

[GroobyKrissy]

Who are these PC gamers you speak of who care all about absolute specs and nothing about games or building a killer system within a budget?

And no, I don't have a 2560 res monitor, so in that respect it is not "max settings". But the only performance/quality setting of a game which is monitor dependent is resolution. Everything else you mentioned, i.e. texture quality, lighting, anisotropic filtering, antialiasing, draw distance, etc. are GPU and CPU dependent, and yes I run all of my games with those settings maxed.

OMG... do you read industry magazines? I have CPU, PC Gamer, PC World, Maximum PC, those are just off the top of my head. Do you visit gaming forums? It is ALL about bragging rights for your system and how pretty it is... I think that is a pretty indisputable fact. Gamers care about their systems and maintain them appropriately.

Gaming within a budget... ENTIRELY different discussion. I'm just saying you shouldn't lecture people on how bad consoles are and how great PC gaming is unless you've got a KICK-ASS gaming system... which you don't. I could walk into any Best Buy right now and buy a system off the shelf ON SALE that would beat your system.

OK, on this last part... I feel like I'm beating my head against a wall here. I don't know how else to explain it. The higher the resolution, the harder your system is working to generate all those extra pixels. The viewing resolution is NOT independent of the system specs... the two are dependent on each other. The graphics card is not just putting out a picture... it is putting out a picture dependent on a given resolution. Again, it is not just putting out texture, lighting, etc. It is putting those things out dependent on the dictated resolution... THE HIGHER THE RESOLUTION ASKED FOR, the harder the system is working.

You're not MAXING out the settings of the game unless you are playing at the highest resolution possible, which if you're just talking casual, hobbyist... is 1920. If you're a gamer, you want to play at 2560... and you need a system able to do so.